Dymax Iq3 For My Bettas

[Gill]

Do your tanks have lids?

Can you turn the light on and off independently of the filter (I have a similar tank and it's designed to have light on all day) - I'm asking as they are REALLY pretty and I'm currently looking on ebay at them

Yeah they dont come with a lid, but I just made a Clear PVC one that seems to be doing the job fine. And yes you can turn off the light independently or dim it if you so desire...

I thought the size of this tank would be sufficient for a single Betta...

>>Honeythorn: Do you not believe this is big enough?

They are perfectly fine for a betta, but to honeythorn. If you don;t keep them in her sized tanks your are guilty of animal cruelty.

 

[Lumiera]

oh...

Now I feel bad... Everyone has said that 2 gallons is OK for a single Betta... I obviously don't want to do the wrong thing, but I cant really fit a bigger tank on my desk at the moment...

I'm not sure what to do now.

I'm also sorry for causing a fuss... I didn't want to cause any disputes, apologies.

 

[aly_starh]

at the rest.


Anyhoo.... @Lumiera;- 3G is minimum Although i have kept a betta in 10L, and he was fine. But tbh, they do show there personality more in bigger tanks, so id say the bigger the better. You also wont have to do that much waterchanges in un-filtered bigger tanks.

A small heater and sponge filter would be nice too, with lots of bushy plants for it to hide in.

Oh, and dont be sorry, i dont use this forum much recently due to people always 'thinking' what they do is right and what everyone else does is wrong. (not specifically directed at anyone btw, just as a whole, im talking about)

 

[OohFeeshy]

As to whether you think it's big enough, ultimately that's up to you. If you think it's fine, it's not like the actual betta police are going to come to your house and hit you until you buy a bigger tank.

 

[Lumiera]

Nah, I know that. But I do like to know I'm doing the right thing... at the end of the day he wont be in the Vegemite jar he's in at the shop anymore, that's gotta be a good thing.

 

[Honeythorn]

Honeythorn: Do you not believe this is big enough?

Nowhere near.

They are perfectly fine for a betta, but to honeythorn. If you don;t keep them in a volume of water that is far more natural for the species, easier to keep stable and will fit in places other than a desk your are guilty of animal cruelty.

Fixed that for you.

These are living beings, not pretty ornaments to keep on desks because they can survive for a while in something small enough to fit on one .

Yes, a filtered tank even that small is better than a vegemite jar, and the tanks are ok for a temporary home, I have never said otherwise, but not for a permanent one. Even filtered they will cause you far more work to keep stable and clean, and there is very little space to swim ( which most bettas do actually enjoy doing if peple bother to give them the room and plenty of plants to rest on)

There are a good amount of places a 5 ( or even a divided-in-two 10 gal ) will fit, not just a desk, a chest of drawers, a small table, kitchen worktop, you can get shelves strong enough to take the weight of a 5 gal, corner tables, coffee tables, units...

 

[Lumiera]

@ Honeythorn:

This doesn't have anything to do with you being Pagan does it? cause i think the Pagan reality is about as big as the fish tank I'm considering using, you seem to be coping just fine...

 

[nessar]

She doesn't think your tank is big enough, so you insult her lifestyle/religion? There's no sense in that. The only thing it proves is that you have a vindictive nature.

Do you go around telling Christians, Hindus and Muslims that what they believe is a load of rubbish? I dont think so. But you think it's acceptable to do it to a pagan. Because she doesnt think your tank is big enough - could you get any more petty?

 

[Honeythorn]

@ Honeythorn:

This doesn't have anything to do with you being Pagan does it? cause i think the Pagan reality is about as big as the fish tank I'm considering using, you seem to be coping just fine...

Being pagan relating to having a fish tank that's a more realistic territory size for the species ( as an indiviual fish with a territory to patrol and exist in ) keeps a fish healthy ( more water volume to dilute waste, proper space for a decent filter and heater ), with space to actually swim instead of shuffle from one corner to another............I don't quite get where you're pulling that one from, though I have a strong suspiscion it's not from your mouth .

Since paganism is an umbrella term encompassing nature based beliefs, keeping my own fish in a space that it can move about in , is properly filtered, heated ,and planted is really far more in keeping with my religious beliefs in the natural world ( and the general basis of being humane to begin with ) than sticking a betta in a very UN natural 1 gallon (unless you actually enjoy emulating the dry season when thousands of these fish die , as a permanent living situation and I for one do not) .


I wasn't aware I had logged into a religious degradation forum...


As an aside, no offence to the OP, since you have never been advised anything other than to keep bettas in tiny mounts of water before now, then your buying those tanks is hardly surprising and quite understandable given the info you've recieved up until now.

It's up to the OP to make a choice wether to keep the fish in there or not, all any of us will do is sit and post opiniuons as to wether we like the tanks or not, but I for one cannot and will not sit here and congratulate anyone on a tank size I believe to be cruel and unessescary.

None of you ( I hope) would do so in a situation where you felt an animal/fish/bird ect was being kept in a highly unsuitable environment intended as a permanent home regardless of popular belief.

 

[aly_starh]

Woah that was bang out. Last time i checked this was a fish forum, not a religous one.

TBF, @OP;- If you were to put a betta in 1G, you will see that its more than likely going to be unhappy. I can garuntee you will see it flourish in a decent 3G.

I agree with OohhFeeshy;- everyone knows what works for them. There might be issues with space, money etc. But you shouldnt really be buying fish if you can properly take care of them.

HTH

 

[StrontiumDog]

Personaly for me if the water perameters are kept in check, those tanks will be fine. As Honeythorn has stated it will be harder to keep the water perameters in check with a smaller volume of water. Thats a fact end of.

While I will always disagree with Honeythorns' belief that 5g's is minimum.

The fact that religion has been mentioned is uncalled for and way bellow the belt, who are any of us to judge someone elses religion? None of us are, so behave. You're bang out of order.

 

[Lumiera]

I am merely stating facts am I not... Paganistic beliefs are focused on nature and have a rather small following? However most Pagans are fine with this are they not?

I dont see a problem with this... If one doesnt want their religion discussed in a public forum, do not promote it in a public forum?

seems like a pretty simple equation to me...

 

[Honeythorn]

SMALL? Paganism is the worlds oldest ( since mankind ever concieved of spirits and gods, and we've been on this earth many thousands of years ) and widespread set of belief systems ( and does actually include Hinduism, a vast religion in it's own right, as well as all ancestor and nature based tribal beliefs, any number of poly and pan theistic beliefs and native european paganism to name a few) It's the polar opposite of small.

And I have only once mentioned being pagan on this form, MONTHS ago, and only then because another member asked me if I was such due to a signature I had at the time. I have NEVER mentioned it in any posts apart from that. The only place you will find a mention of my faith is in my profile.

My faith is NOT publicly broadcast , you had to go and look for it. You certainly wouldn't glean such a thing from my posts since I don't mention it at all.

And regardless of wether I brought it up or not, why did you bring it up since it has little to do with the preferred tanks sizes for keeping a fish in?

 

[Lumiera]

SMALL? Paganism is the worlds oldest ( since mankind ever concieved of spirits and gods, and we've been on this earth many thousands of years ) and widespread set of belief systems ( and does actually include Hinduism, a vast religion in it's own right, as well as all ancestor and nature based tribal beliefs, any number of poly and pan theistic beliefs and native european paganism to name a few) It's the polar opposite of small.

And I have only once mentioned being pagan on this form, MONTHS ago, and only then because another member asked me if I was such due to a signature I had at the time. I have NEVER mentioned it in any posts apart from that. The only place you will find a mention of my faith is in my profile.

My faith is NOT publicly broadcast , you had to go and look for it. You certainly wouldn't glean such a thing from my posts since I don't mention it at all.

And regardless of wether I brought it up or not, why did you bring it up since it has little to do with the preferred tanks sizes for keeping a fish in?

yeah whatever... see you in hell, oh thats right, you don't have one! you become a tree or something when you die....

 

[nessar]

lol at the awful comeback