Ahh, fishdudein, finally a breath of fresh air. I figured that since people went into a tropical fish forum, they were as interested as I was in learning all that is possible about the hobby. About 2 hours after I got my first tank (freebie from my uncle) I started pouring over information at the library, on the net, anywhere there was articles written about fish. I loved discus from the beginning, but most of the articles you read on them make them seem nearly impossible to raise. Lucky for me there's a breeder right down the road who's been breeding discus in our local water supply for about 30 years. Matter of fact, his discus are as hardy as a goldfish, and you can take em home from his tanks, temp acclimate, and dump them in my tanks, hardness 300+ ppm, ph 7.8 , which would be impossible with many discus. I sold about 20 to a LFS about 2 hours drive from here where their ph was like 6.3, and the goofball working the counter didnt even acclimate them at ALL!! I took the fish in, handed her the bag, then took my son to the bathroom ASAP, and when we came out, the fish were swimming around in their 200 gallon display tank!! I was SO upset! When I got home, i called to see how they did, and to my shock, she said they were already eating and chasing each other around the tank! If you ever wanted to buy discus, he's your man. He advertises in TFH every month, and has for a long time. Bill Deam. Look in the back of TFH and you'll find his number n stuff.