Discus Have White Spot, Help!

[M0RPH]

if i may add my 2 cents on this.....
It has been found that Ich does not infect new fish at 29.4°C/85°F (Johnson, 1976), stops reproducing at 30°C/86°F (Dr. Nick St. Erne, DVM, pers. comm.), and dies at 32°C/89.5°F (Meyer, 1984)

so surely if you increase the tank temp to 32 degrees and hold it there for 14 days it will cure it naturally??

 

[Dieses Madchen]

Is 32 degrees safe for the discus though? Most fish would become stressed at that point i would think.

 

[snake007]

I would of thought that its the top end of the discus temperature.

 

[Dieses Madchen]

I dnot know much about discus aside from acceptable housing....i have never kept them.

 

[snake007]

I dnot know much about discus aside from acceptable housing....i have never kept them.

Same here.

 

[mark2109111]

Surely the sheer number of individuals all telling you the same thing suggests that maybe they're onto something? Don't spit your dummy out just because you don't agree with it.

The answer to your question about treating the white spot is to use white spot medication. But you have said you don't want to - any particular reason why not?

I don't believe salt is good for discus - but I might be wrong, so perhaps you ought to try a dedicated discus forum for more advice. See how your 30 gallon goes down on there.

I'm not spitting my 'dummy' out at all. It's simply the people on here are too busy telling you what is wrong with what you are doing, rather than answering the questions they look for. This was actually a big talking point in a recent post to give feedback about the site, so there is truth to it, I'm not the only one.

Pumping a tank full with chemicals has never been the preferred method on this site, so why is it now?

I will be looking to other places to answer my questions. Fingers crossed, they'll actually be useful.

I have been keeping and breeding discus, apistogramma, and all other types of fish for ten years. and have been keeping fish for almost 20. And i am still learning. If i were you i would just take the info people give you. And if you don't like it just don't use it. But posting rude comments back is unnecessary. And quite childish. Good luck with your discus

 

[TropicalJuwel]

By raising the temp you speed up the lifecycle of white spot which is when the medication comes in handy to treat it and get white spot back under control.

You commented earlier being sarcastic about cruelty to fishand that they should be in there natural enviroment, I'm guessing your fish wish they were in there natural enviroment, in a cramped tank, low on numbers of there own kind showing signs of stress and all your bothering to do is pick a fight with people trying to help you.

If you know the answers to your own question probably best not to ask it but dont shoot down people giving there free time and good advice to then say everyone is wrong.

I wish your fish well.

 

[Jay-93]

I dnot know much about discus aside from acceptable housing....i have never kept them.

Same here.

^^^^^^^^^^^^

My point. You don't know too much about Discus, yet you feel free to dictate to me what is right and wrong about what I'm doing.

Sorry to appear arrogant, but it annoys me to see people on this site with a sense of superiority over newer members, so if I appear arrogant, that's why.

I appreciate constructive criticism, but that wasn't what I was given, I was basically lectured, not advised. So expect me to not take kindly to it.

 

[snake007]

Its basic knowledge that a 30 gallon is to small for discus.

 

[Dieses Madchen]

I may have never kept discus, and I may not know how to treat a sick one, but I know enough people who devote their fish keeping to them to at least knwo what they need. I have asked. You werent lectured. You were advised, but you were set on thinking you are right because a breeder said so. A puppy mill breeds puppies in conditions totally unsuitable for a dog, but they breed them, so obviously they are right? Nevermind the fact that the mill is crawling with disease and the pups are kept in the shoebox. The mill has been going to 20 years! See how bad that sounds?

Mark knows plenty on Discus and said the same thing the rest of us did. How is his 20 years or experience different from your mentors?

 

[phocoena]

I may have never kept discus, and I may not know how to treat a sick one, but I know enough people who devote their fish keeping to them to at least knwo what they need. I have asked. You werent lectured. You were advised, but you were set on thinking you are right because a breeder said so. A puppy mill breeds puppies in conditions totally unsuitable for a dog, but they breed them, so obviously they are right? Nevermind the fact that the mill is crawling with disease and the pups are kept in the shoebox. The mill has been going to 20 years! See how bad that sounds?

+1

 

[Jay-93]

30 gallons for a breeding pair and a 2" Discus though? They're hardly pushing each other aside for space. There is currently a good 2 thirds of the tank open while the Discus are all together at one end.

They get 25% water change daily, with RO water, so the water quality isn't exactly bad for them either.

 

[Dieses Madchen]

But unless they are breeding they should not be in a tank that small. Are you actively breeding? like its been stated. 2-3 weeks in a tank that small for breeding purposes is fine, but not permanantly. You fish have ich because they are not happy. They are happiest in a larger tank (55g MINIMUM) in a shoal of 6 or more. Im really surprised your breeder friend didn't tell you this. In a natural habitat, you will rarely see a discus alone or with one or two buddies.

 

[TropicalJuwel]

The fact is that you have been given the best possible advice by not one person but servral people and coincidentally its all the same advice. Treatment raise temp and treatwith meds then what you need to do is think why the problem occurred in the first place and the reason was given as tank to small and not enough of the same fish. Remember they are sick for a reason. People dont want you to come back in a month with a topic saying " I have white spot again "

 

[juggernuts]

Just read this thread, and sadly have to agree with jay 93 on this, there are far too many people who believe that they know best due to tank size's and stocking.

Its common knowledge certain fish can live together that wouldnt normally and therefore not all rules apply for stocking etc.

It would be a better place if people just answered the questions and maybe expanded on answers, but when people start to get crabby about "your tanks not big enough" its just a shame and not very helpfull.

At the end of the day the natural environment for discus is 10000000000000's of gallons and in groups of about 100 but putting them in a 3,4,5 or 6ft tank is still far to small really.

We as fish keepers accept the fact we are there to do the best for our pets but size really is one thing people should not worry about except fish that grow to like 50" put in a 3ft tank.

Thank you and good night