Coronavirus...post your thoughts here...

[connorlindeman]

I believe in the terrain theory, not virus theory. These "pandemics" are just a way to control us via masks, jabs, lockdowns.

I ignored the mandates as mandates aren't laws.

Ah terrain theory. I believe in that as well.

 

[outofwater]

Ah terrain theory. I believe in that as well.

Speaking of that, this.

 

[WhistlingBadger]

Terrain theory isn't completely wrong, in that overall health does indeed play a huge part in disease, and also that the vast majority of bacteria and viruses are harmless or even necessary. In that sense, terrain theory and germ theory aren't opposed, but work together: Pathogens are more likely to become established in a body that is already weakened. On the other hand, there is absolutely no scientific basis for terrain theory's primary thesis, that "microzymes" lie dormant in human cells, waiting to turn into pathogens when conditions are unhealthy. I suspect many people who subscribe to "Terrain theory" don't really understand what it is. It doesn't simply mean "take care of your body and you won't get sick." Here's a decent overview.

The post above with the two fish bowls is a bit of a straw-man and has nothing to do with terrain theory, as it fits quite nicely with germ theory as well. Anybody who accepts the science on pathogens would agree that the fish doesn't need vaccinated; it needs a better habitat.

Germ theory is extremely well documented, as the effectiveness of antibiotics and vaccinations demonstrates. Know anybody who has died of strep throat or smallpox lately?

 

[WhistlingBadger]

These "pandemics" are just a way to control us via masks, jabs, lockdowns.

By whom, and to what end?

 

[JuiceBox52]

Terrain theory isn't completely wrong, in that overall health does indeed play a huge part in disease, and also that the vast majority of bacteria and viruses are harmless or even necessary. In that sense, terrain theory and germ theory aren't opposed, but work together: Pathogens are more likely to become established in a body that is already weakened. On the other hand, there is absolutely no scientific basis for terrain theory's primary thesis, that "microzymes" lie dormant in human cells, waiting to turn into pathogens when conditions are unhealthy. I suspect many people who subscribe to "Terrain theory" don't really understand what it is. It doesn't simply mean "take care of your body and you won't get sick." Here's a decent overview.

The post above with the two fish bowls is a bit of a straw-man and has nothing to do with terrain theory, as it fits quite nicely with germ theory as well. Anybody who accepts the science on pathogens would agree that the fish doesn't need vaccinated; it needs a better habitat.

Germ theory is extremely well documented, as the effectiveness of antibiotics and vaccinations demonstrates. Know anybody who has died of strep throat or smallpox lately?

Well written

 

[outofwater]

Terrain theory isn't completely wrong, in that overall health does indeed play a huge part in disease, and also that the vast majority of bacteria and viruses are harmless or even necessary. In that sense, terrain theory and germ theory aren't opposed, but work together: Pathogens are more likely to become established in a body that is already weakened. On the other hand, there is absolutely no scientific basis for terrain theory's primary thesis, that "microzymes" lie dormant in human cells, waiting to turn into pathogens when conditions are unhealthy. I suspect many people who subscribe to "Terrain theory" don't really understand what it is. It doesn't simply mean "take care of your body and you won't get sick." Here's a decent overview.

The post above with the two fish bowls is a bit of a straw-man and has nothing to do with terrain theory, as it fits quite nicely with germ theory as well. Anybody who accepts the science on pathogens would agree that the fish doesn't need vaccinated; it needs a better habitat.

Germ theory is extremely well documented, as the effectiveness of antibiotics and vaccinations demonstrates. Know anybody who has died of strep throat or smallpox lately?

Either extreme is bad. I can't "trust the science " that mandated I put on a useless piece of cloth, unless I wished to lose my parental rights, be cast away from "society" and effectively marked as a pariah who couldn't even go food shopping at most supermarkets.
There are diseases that were all but eradicated by actual vaccines, as defined for decades before they "updated" the definition of the word to fit the experimental shots.

Speaking of those. Africa is the least vaccinated continent, a third world hellhole by most accounts yet they had the least deaths per capita with the terrible virus.

The amish also declined the shots and by and large their communities have not been decimated by winters of death and suffering, as was promised by the clown sitting in the white house.

The arrogance about the safety and efficacy of the experimental shots l, and the naivete of thinking that this, or most governments; have people's best interest at hand, is laughable, and irritating at the same time.

 

[WhistlingBadger]

...as defined for decades before they "updated" the definition of the word to fit the experimental shots.

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you mean.

Speaking of those. Africa is the least vaccinated continent, a third world hellhole by most accounts yet they had the least deaths per capita with the terrible virus.

The amish also declined the shots and by and large their communities have not been decimated by winters of death and suffering, as was promised by the clown sitting in the white house.

I hadn't heard that about Africa. I suspect the Amish were largely unaffected because of their isolation. Social distancing is sort of a way of life for them! ha ha
(also, please remember to refrain from political commentary)

 

[outofwater]

Can you elaborate on this? I'm not sure what you mean.


I hadn't heard that about Africa. I suspect the Amish were largely unaffected because of their isolation. Social distancing is sort of a way of life for them! ha ha
(also, please remember to refrain from political commentary)

The cdc changed their definition of vaccine in 2021. That's well documented and a simple internet search will show you plenty of articles with this information.

Africa remained largely out of quarantines, and had the lowest per capita injection rate, and the lowest death rate. Also found from multiple sources after simple searches.

The amish interact with others, they sell their wares and travel thru towns. Their way of life IS different, but that doesn't mean they're fully isolated, or at least not as "the science" recommended, back when everyone was scared of touching door knobs, and china was welding shut doors to apartment complexes.

As for politics, I'm not taking cheap shots or pushing my opinion, I'm stating facts. There are countless videos and articles written about when over the last 2 winters every politician here in the states and abroad, unequivocally said that those who refused to take the shots were surely the reason for spreading the new plague, even amongst those who took the experimental shots. And the commander in chief himself said we would surely face "severe illness and death". Word for word.

 

[OnlyGenusCaps]

I would never have guessed at the beginning of a global pandemic that a disease could become so politically, and intellectually, divisive. To all of those who are still emotionally incensed over this (enemies?!), I have only one message:

 

[connorlindeman]

Life is not all sunshine and roses.

 

[Rocky998]

I would never have guessed at the beginning of a global pandemic that a disease could become so politically, and intellectually, divisive. To all of those who are still emotionally incensed over this (enemies?!), I have only one message:

Life is not all sunshine and roses.

 

[OnlyGenusCaps]

It's not my sort of music, but I can 100% get behind your message, brother! (I listened to the whole song.) And ain't that what it's about? Seeing the good and humanity in each other when we don't see eye-to-eye on the unimportant stuff?! I'll raise one to you tonight, and your fish. Because including the fish only seems right on this platform.

 

[Rocky998]

It's not my sort of music, but I can 100% get behind your message, brother! (I listened to the whole song.) And ain't that what it's about? Seeing the good and humanity in each other when we don't see eye-to-eye on the unimportant $h!t?! I'll raise one to you tonight, and your fish. Because including the fish only seems right on this platform.

Absolutely! I wish people didn't base relationships with other people on opinions and decide to hate a person just because they think a certain way... Sure it may irritate us a bit, but it's no reason to reject them completely.

 

[GaryE]

The African low death rate myth is believed by people who have never been to Africa. I doubt you can imagine the lack of hospitals, of internal communications and of doctors in many African countries. Many countries are run like businesses, and the wealth goes only to a small group at the top. On the ground, 90% of deaths occur at home, and and are not autopsied. Cause of death is unreported. There are only well meaning neighbours to check - not doctors. There are only labs in the largest population centres, and not many of them.
I spoke to people who were very clear they'd had a pandemic, and were very angry that the vast majority of vaccines had gone to the richest countries, while they'd been left to die. It's an issue right now, unreported in the western press but a cause of resentment on the continent. I heard about a few weeks ago in central Africa, and I admit it wasn't an issue I'd thought about before.
Preliminary studies in morgues for the few who died in hospital suggest that at the peak epidemic periods, they were hit like the west was. It doesn't answer whether people died of covid or with covid. That can't be resolved. No one was really looking.

I find that the vast majority of anti vaxxers are followers of libertarian or religious ideologies. They dutifully repeat. I wish their foolishness were true - life would be easier and less scary if it were. When the epidemic was becoming pan,I didn't need my elected government working with credible scientists and doctors to tell me to act sensibly. Common sense based on being a history buff with an interest in pandemics of the past told me what would probably develop. Every major disease event, be it smallpox, tuberculosis, the black death, the 1919 influenza, typhoid, cholera - all had the same denial movements saying the same things to deny their fear. It would be funny if we didn't know and love people who died of these diseases.

This thread should be done, as high vaccination rates and mutations in the ever evolving virus have made current forums of COVID much less dangerous for previously healthy people. It's yesterday's talking point. History says there will be future disease outbreaks on massive scales, and we can rave about the next one.

 

[Wills]

Why does this thread have so many members with 1 post - meaning they joined a fish forum to talk about Covid and their opinions about various approaches to it...