I know that
Just making a point. Maybe there should be a sub-section in the Hybrids forum entitled 'Mutants'. Thats got a good ring to it
It doesn't have a good ring to it, because its insulting to other people's pets. But you say what you want, you're obviously allowed the fine priviledge of being the troll of this thread. Do you troll every thread, or have only 4,999 of your posts been full of inflamatory remarks?
Knocking, no, briefly skimming over the wide range of health problems (seen the PFK article about new legislation possibly mentioning (maybe banning) some fancy goldfish? They have to be pretty awful to get animal cruelty legislation about them).....
Knocking is right, and you'll prove in your very next comment, then expect us to ignore the "knocking" again.
Most people who know how to keep goldfish never see "the wide range of health problems" in their fish that you're trying to make out like everyone has. This is news to me, and probably news to most goldfish breeders/keepers. Someone needs to tell them that the the majority of their fish are having "the wide range of health problems" you say they should be having.
....not to mention the fact that most of them are plain ugly.... Who wants a fish who's eyeballs look like they've been given collagen injections and face the wrong way? But lets ignore that for now.
There you go, the knocking again. Its just not what the thread is about....but let's ignore this just because you want us to....
Hold on, whose standards? Mine? I don't recall mentioning this...
You don't mention the obvious, but maybe that wasn't known. Your standards became apparent in your statements about "some fancy goldfish".
If I were to say something about not liking really bad paintings that other people might call "art", I would be revealing standards for what I consider "bad art". This will not be explained further.
In case you didn't notice, 'Tropical Saltwater - Reefs and Marine' doesn't contain the word fish. nd it is, in actual fact, a seperate section, not in the tropical fish section. Reef tank do, in the majority of cases, contain fish, but in the majority of cases, coldwater tanks aren't tropical. Funnily enough.
I just explained this.....and will explain it only one more time....you just don't get it.....
A "reef tank" is an aquarium that is "reef" based. The main focus and main priority of this type of tank (this includes nano reef tanks) is the invertebrate population which mainly resides on the "live rock", much like a reef out in the sea. Fish that live amongst the reefs are few in this type of tank. They are not the main focus of this type of tank. Many reef tanks, especially nano reefs, don't even have any fish in them. Therefore, the "reef systems" are not fish based. Reef tanks aren't really about fish, they are about the invertebrates that live on the "live rock".
By YOUR very obvious standards, the standards you have made obvious in this thread...oh wait....maybe I need to explain your standards to you....
You revealed your standards when you said, "Goldfish are not tropical, therefore belong under "other pets". Moving them now would "do nothing for no one"".
Your standards are based in the wording "tropical" and "fish" being something you can't seperate. Goldfish are fish, but aren't tropical....therefore they aren't up to the "tropical fish" standard. You want to keep goldfish down in the "other pets" section because, even though they're still fish, they aren't "tropical".
Therefore, by your standards, there should be a "Saltwater Tropical Fish" section, or maybe a "Tropical Saltwater Fish" section....and everything else should be in shoved down into the "other pets", because, though they may be "tropical", they aren't "fish".
You're clearly biased torwards goldfish, and your bias makes your argument and baseless statements useless in this thread. Calling them "vilely mutated" and bringing up some very silly potential ban of these great fish that will never happen is not staying on topic with this thread. The topic of the thread is that goldfish aren't "other pets", they are FISH.
Heh? Didn't catch a word of that, but other pets is a section for creatures that aren't tropical, or salt water, or tech related. Fish can be included.
Hopefully I was more clear and simple this time. Fish can be included in that section, out of freedom of choice....sure. But "coldwater fish" need an OBVIOUS section that is their own section, just as the "saltwater reef" creatures have theirs.
I can show you two threads in the past few days that were started in "tropical chit chat" because they didn't know there was a section here AT ALL for goldfish. Scroll back in this thread, and you'll see a comment that it was not known there was a goldfish section as well.
Whats trendy
Not liking fancy goldfish, you mean? I like my fish as natural as possible, not inbred up to the eyeballs, skin folds, hunchbacks, 'I've swallowed a beanbag' belly and invisible dorsals.
Trendy may have been a bad word. Traditional would be a better word. Your opinions and nasty coments on their looks is totally, utterly, and completely useless in this thread. Stick to the subject.
Having them in a different section doesn't make them 'unequal'. It's common sense.
I didn't say anything "makes" them unequal, I said people see them that way.
Since you're talking about it however, how many bettas are being kept in those vile betta hexes, or similar? How many bala sharks are being kept in 10gs? How many common plecs are kept in tank way too small? Hopw many clownfish and tangs are bearing the brunt of 'I want a nemo tank!'? Cruelty happends everywhere, not just to goldfish.
You again, made my point. And how many of these have been, on top of all this, shunned and put down by others when something is said on their behalf, and how many of these are shoved down into "other pets" with the reptiles and cats?
Why exactly? Respects respect, not liking them is another matter completely.
I was talking about the tropical fish keeping community in general, the world doesn't revolve around just you.
