Can You Help Me I.D This Dog?

[Haych]

what you need is to know a dog has a good temperment.

i bought a labrador WITH papers to know he was good.

if you buy a pup you WILL have howling, peeing, pooping the lot. but imo it is better to buy a pup and train it not to hurt the kids, make him the "lowest of the pack"

also, as soon as you get the pup, buy a crate. it stops them breaking anything.

am so sorry you had to take him back though

try labrador rescue if you want, but the dont usually home to people with children tbh. i would always go for pedigree with papers (so no inbreeding) and a pup you can mould.

(we plan on getting a king charles spaniel one day as it wont bowl the kids over either!)

 

[Curiosity101]

Just a note, I wasn't judging you. I was actually trying to say I agree with your decision to re-home him...it was the only option.

But I was also trying to urge you not to simply go for a pup because they are small, for all the reasons Tolak stated small dogs (and pups that turn into larger dogs) all need the same training as a large dog. For this reason I'd strongly suggest going for an older dog, 3 years and above.

The reason the dog took food from the children and jumped up will have been a mixture of 1. He doesn't know any better 2. He's full of energy and 3. He didn't know he was the lowest member of the family.
So he totally was a risk to you and the family, hence totally the correct decision to return him. In the time it took you to train him there could have been an accident, but this is totally where the learning experience comes in. You're in no way a 'bad person' or 'not as good as me' (again I really wasn't judging you). But you are a new dog owner...so it makes sense to not just throw yourself in at the deep end (with a pup) when you have such a young + time demanding family.

 

[Floyds mum]

Hi i'm about to adopt a young Dog from a Rescue centre over the next few days but I and they..have no clue what he is

They have stated he might be part boxer,part labrador, part spaniel but they are not sure on any.

this is him

No matter what he is im definitely getting him...i'm really excited, never had a dog before and hes already had his first 2 jabs, neutered and microchipped etc...i just got to pay £125 adoption charges.

Also stupid question...he is about 8 months old and he has a bit of a weird name 'Zingano' I want to call him 'Diesel' would that pose a problem? confuse him etc?

It looks more like a lab X pointer to me, also with his tail docked as pointers have theirs docked to whereas staffies dont tend to.

 

[Cichlid_Crazy]

Hi he turned out to be a Boxador (Boxer x Labrador) but i found him to much work for a first dog as his behavior was very bad and took him back.

We have decided now we are going to wait till the kids are older and the cats have lived there lives out before we get another dog.

Then we are going to look at Alaskan Huskeys and Bengal cats....spend a bit of money and get some pretty pets

This time armed with crates and all other kinds of training tools plus we are going to get a small pup and a kitten together.

 

[weejen]

i would say there is a bit of pointer in him

 

[ian]

IMO i wouldn't get a Husky, they are hard work. They need at least 3-4 hours running and i mean running before they show any sign of chilling. I have worked with Husky's and they are trainable, they just need a lot of running. They can do 30 miles and not show any sign of tiredness. Then comes the howl at night...

 

[Curiosity101]

I agree. Again as it's a first dog I wouldn't get a husky. They're extremely strong willed animals and although extremely intelligent they can be very hard to train if you haven't had previous experience.

 

[weejen]

yeah deffo dont get a husky. to much had work and there built to runn up to 15hrs a day not good pets

 

[Curiosity101]

I disagree that they aren't good pets. They can just require quite alot of time and experience for them to be good pets. Obviously it does depends on the exact dog, but I'd say 99% of Huskies are extremely headstrong and because they're so intelligent can easily outfox a new owner.

 

[weejen]

I disagree that they aren't good pets. They can just require quite alot of time and experience for them to be good pets. Obviously it does depends on the exact dog, but I'd say 99% of Huskies are extremely headstrong and because they're so intelligent can easily outfox a new owner.

i didnt mean they arent good pets just they arnt good pets for ppl with not alot of experiance looking after huskies. and with alot of time to spend looking after them

 

[ian]

there are very few dogs i'd recommend as a first dog. People will recommend labs as a first dog, for me this is a also a no no. Sounds stange doesn't it?! There are 2 strains of lab, the working strain and the show strain (equally as mad as pups) but as the titles suggest the working strain can work and i mean work. I have a worker and we went on a boxing day shoot a couple of years ago (he's now 5 and slowing down). We went from 8am stopped for dinner, to 6pm and he didn't stop. He loved it, i do walk him everyday for at least 2 hours and this caps his energy, but he'd gladly do more. Now the show strain tend to mature earlier (by 18m/2years). and settle right down.

If i was to recommend a first dog it would be a King Charles Cav, but they do come with there health problems.

 

[celticfishwife]

I'm so glad for you and your new mate Diesel. he looks boxer x lab x springer to me as well - def can't see any staff in there. He is a gorgeous looking dog.

Can I just say, as someone who has fostered for several different dog rescues and owns 4 fab rescue dogs, that although its not as quick as someone who just goes to a breeder hands over cash and then takes the dog, rescues have to put systems into place for a reason. This is your first dog - they should be asking if it's the right dog for you; you have children - is this dog ok to be around children and are your children responsible around dogs; the home check is important not only to prove where you live but also to see the environment the dog will be kept in and to let them know that you are being honest about the information you have given them. it's not to judge you or how you live. A good rescue will want to ensure that the dog goes to its forever home so it doesn't end up back 'in the system' or worse and that you and your family have a great experience with your first dog. They want this to work for all involved so your all happy. They invest a lot of time, energy and money into these dogs and the only reward they get is that people like you come along and want one of their dogs and that's why they do it. Very few rescues actually make any money and one that I've fostered for actually puts their own money into it when donations stop coming in and dogs need vet treatment.

I can feel your excitement jumping off your posts and wish you and your new mate (& family) all the best - good luck

Yeh they are very sneaky.

I finally pesuaded my partner a few days ago and i rang them up when my partner went to grab teh kids from school....i said i would come down and see him and they refused me becasue they said they need to see my kids aswell....so by teh time my partner got back...it was 15:45....they shut at 17:30...so i assuemd we had loads of time, but they say your not allowed to visit the dogs after 16:00....meh.

So the next day i ring up and i tell them i want him after reading his read up etc...and the lady told me there was no charges and thye wanted him to go to a good home and that i could come and get him on friday morning (today).

My partner rang up to confirm this herself and spoke to the same lady and they told her he would cost us £125.....bit of a difference.....but by that time i had my heart set on it and it is my little girls birthday party tomorrow (saturday) so it was a perfect present.

So after being told Friday....I turn up today and the lady was very rude...she said no i cant have him today because she needs to do a house check...bit disappointed...but i thought fair enough...she said it wont take more than a few weeks....now im gettign put off because my little girl was gonna be devastated.

So they let me take him for a walk while i was there....and they wanted to judge how good i was with him, so they sent a another lady outside.... i said to her...hes lovley but im disapointed because they said i coudl have him today and now i got to wait for a few weeks...and she said this is the first house check they have ever done...

...So they obviously didn't like the look of me! haha...maybe its because im under 30..i dunno...or maybe its because i got into a small debate with her about rottweilers and Alsatians because she suggested we had one of these instead...and i don't like them! im 6ft, 4 and 16 stone muay thai boxer...and that aint small, but i know that if one of those dogs kicks off at my family i wouldn't be able to defend them much against a dog like that! so i preferred the smaller...cuter type

That or she wanted him for herself!!

Anyway i got the phonecall from the RSCA lady earlier and shes doing the hosue check tommorow...and i sweet talked her into hurrying up the answer to the kennel place because its my lil princess's birthday and she promised me she would

Anyway...long story....stupid place is frustrating!!!

I got a few snaps of him earlier...me and my new mate 'Diesel'

 

[celticfishwife]

I'm so glad for you and your new mate Diesel. he looks boxer x lab x springer to me as well - def can't see any staff in there. He is a gorgeous looking dog.

Can I just say, as someone who has fostered for several different dog rescues and owns 4 fab rescue dogs, that although its not as quick as someone who just goes to a breeder hands over cash and then takes the dog, rescues have to put systems into place for a reason. This is your first dog - they should be asking if it's the right dog for you; you have children - is this dog ok to be around children and are your children responsible around dogs; the home check is important not only to prove where you live but also to see the environment the dog will be kept in and to let them know that you are being honest about the information you have given them. it's not to judge you or how you live. A good rescue will want to ensure that the dog goes to its forever home so it doesn't end up back 'in the system' or worse and that you and your family have a great experience with your first dog. They want this to work for all involved so your all happy. They invest a lot of time, energy and money into these dogs and the only reward they get is that people like you come along and want one of their dogs and that's why they do it. Very few rescues actually make any money and one that I've fostered for actually puts their own money into it when donations stop coming in and dogs need vet treatment.

I can feel your excitement jumping off your posts and wish you and your new mate (& family) all the best - good luck

Yeh they are very sneaky.

I finally pesuaded my partner a few days ago and i rang them up when my partner went to grab teh kids from school....i said i would come down and see him and they refused me becasue they said they need to see my kids aswell....so by teh time my partner got back...it was 15:45....they shut at 17:30...so i assuemd we had loads of time, but they say your not allowed to visit the dogs after 16:00....meh.

So the next day i ring up and i tell them i want him after reading his read up etc...and the lady told me there was no charges and thye wanted him to go to a good home and that i could come and get him on friday morning (today).

My partner rang up to confirm this herself and spoke to the same lady and they told her he would cost us £125.....bit of a difference.....but by that time i had my heart set on it and it is my little girls birthday party tomorrow (saturday) so it was a perfect present.

So after being told Friday....I turn up today and the lady was very rude...she said no i cant have him today because she needs to do a house check...bit disappointed...but i thought fair enough...she said it wont take more than a few weeks....now im gettign put off because my little girl was gonna be devastated.

So they let me take him for a walk while i was there....and they wanted to judge how good i was with him, so they sent a another lady outside.... i said to her...hes lovley but im disapointed because they said i coudl have him today and now i got to wait for a few weeks...and she said this is the first house check they have ever done...

...So they obviously didn't like the look of me! haha...maybe its because im under 30..i dunno...or maybe its because i got into a small debate with her about rottweilers and Alsatians because she suggested we had one of these instead...and i don't like them! im 6ft, 4 and 16 stone muay thai boxer...and that aint small, but i know that if one of those dogs kicks off at my family i wouldn't be able to defend them much against a dog like that! so i preferred the smaller...cuter type

That or she wanted him for herself!!

Anyway i got the phonecall from the RSCA lady earlier and shes doing the hosue check tommorow...and i sweet talked her into hurrying up the answer to the kennel place because its my lil princess's birthday and she promised me she would

Anyway...long story....stupid place is frustrating!!!

I got a few snaps of him earlier...me and my new mate 'Diesel'

Sorry have just realised that there was more then one page to this thread DOH!
Am sorry it didn't work out for you with this dog and I think you were right to take him back.
As for a first dog I certainly wouldn't advise a husky, their requirements may be more then you can give them and they're large dogs. I would suggest that you speak to people who have lots of different breeds of dogs - so go to crufts or somewhere like that. You should be looking for a dog that will fit into your family set up as much as anything else and maybe forget about specific breeds etc. Make a list of what your families needs are and then work from there. I love small dogs but have 4 medium/large dogs one of which is a Rottie - they can make great first dogs but you must understand the breed you will be getting, not buy into stereotypes and find out from lots of people who actually own them. Any half decent breeder or breed specific rescue would be happy to put you in touch with poeple they have homed to that you can go and meet and see how they are. Good luck for the future

 

[Shelby]

I might be a tad bit late. I hope not to offend anyone with this post.

I'm really sorry that it didn't work for you and Diesel It's always sad when that happens. Being active in dog training I would have to say that Huskies as a first dog are a bad idea. Husky type dogs such as Malamutes, Huskies, Samoyeds, etc are runners. These dogs love to run and are hard to train.

Splitting labs up as working or show is a rather broad description. It would be better to split them by color. Yellow labs tend to be lazier, Chocolate labs way more energetic and a tad spastic, Black labs tend to be more stable in manner and energy.

If you want to generalize between working and show lines:
Show lines tend to be more unstable in temperament. They are bred for looks and not stability.
Working lines tend to be a bit more stable as they are bred for competition and must be stable in temperament to be successful.

Whatever dog you decide to get, plan on long term so really do your research. How big is this dog going to get? How much excercise does it need? Research your breeder if you go that route. If you want a specific breed check breed specific rescues.

Almost any breed has issues. Do some serious research into whatever breed you chose as hopefully you will be providing a "forever home"

And if you get a puppy.... please please please crate train! They can get into so much trouble if left alone for even a couple of seconds. Crate training isn't cruel. Dogs are "den" animals. If done correctly eventually they come to think of their crates as their own room.

Good luck
Shelby

My GSD's from left to right:
Chieftain (red sable) Angus (black sable) Galianna (solid black) Olex (black & tan) Alexaveer (dark sable) all German working lines.

 

[ian]

its not a broad generalisation, its the way labs are bread. Working and show, you cannot break a labs temperament up by colour! Or as the Americans like to call it English and American (which is the wrong description btw).

But don't set a Lab apart by colour! I have been around working labs all my life of every colour and there seems to be a generalisation about chocolate labs being mad (btw 'spastic' isn't very PC) is not a good one to make either. I have met mad chocolates and mad yellows. I have never read anything so ridiculous!