Bristlenose Vs Pitbull Pleco

[iceprizm]

I am try to decide on on which pleco to get. i want a pleco that will stay small and is a good algae eater.
any opinions which pleco would be a good choice?

 

[scatz]

bn's are great at cleaning algae when they are young but they stop as they get older, otto's could be worth looking at, these are much better cleaners than pitbulls or bn's imo

 

[Chrs]

Lol I had the same question I saw pitbulls at petsmart and was going through all the books they sold there to look and find some pros and cons i didnt already know.

 

[JenCliBee]

bn's are great at cleaning algae when they are young but they stop as they get older, otto's could be worth looking at, these are much better cleaners than pitbulls or bn's imo

Thats not true, even when older quite a few still are very good at clearing algea also some even when young will just not touch it... pretty much hit and miss.... pitbulls are far better at clearing algae and will do so throughout most of its life.

More importantly how big is your tank?

You do relise that algae isnt enough for a plec alone to complete it's dietry requirements?

 

[scatz]

i'd still beg to differ, ask most that have kept bn's and most will tell you that the adults, especially males, are no where near as good a cleaner as they used to be when they were younger

 

[bagu]

im getting pitbulls/ottos =] i had a BN and it done a FANTASTIC job!

 

[JenCliBee]

i'd still beg to differ, ask most that have kept bn's and most will tell you that the adults, especially males, are no where near as good a cleaner as they used to be when they were younger

LOL, ive kept BN's for what now around 10 years m8, and thats not what you originally said!!, what you actually said was .....

bn's are great at cleaning algae when they are young but they stop as they get older

If you actaully read what i said

Thats not true, even when older quite a few still are very good at clearing algea

I said quite a few still will!!! not all, and i also said that even as youngsters some wont even touch algae.

Ive had whats goto have been 50 -60 adult BN's over the time of keeping them and gods know have many thousand babies... if that doesnt count for experience then nothink does!!

Please read properly before giving a backlash to somethink i never said

 

[scatz]

i'd still beg to differ, ask most that have kept bn's and most will tell you that the adults, especially males, are no where near as good a cleaner as they used to be when they were younger

LOL, ive kept BN's for what now around 10 years m8, and thats not what you originally said!!, what you actually said was .....

bn's are great at cleaning algae when they are young but they stop as they get older

If you actaully read what i said

Thats not true, even when older quite a few still are very good at clearing algea

I said quite a few still will!!! not all, and i also said that even as youngsters some wont even touch algae.

Ive had whats goto have been 50 -60 adult BN's over the time of keeping them and gods know have many thousand babies... if that doesnt count for experience then nothink does!!

Please read properly before giving a backlash to somethink i never said

where is the Backlash?
the o.p asked which plec was the better cleaner, you gave the impression that bn's continue to be good cleaners where in fact "most" wont, i was just pointing out the fact that "most" bn, once reaching adulthood stop grazing on the algae growth. In future, i will remember to add a disclaimer at the end of each of my posts to say "Generalization" out of fear of creating such a backlash, i apologise


to the o.p, otto's or pitbulls are a good choice

 

[mancin]

My understanding is that Pitbulls do a bit better in groups (i.e. 3) while BNs can be kept on their own.

 

[JenCliBee]

where is the Backlash?
the o.p asked which plec was the better cleaner, you gave the impression that bn's continue to be good cleaners where in fact "most" wont, i was just pointing out the fact that "most" bn, once reaching adulthood stop grazing on the algae growth. In future, i will remember to add a disclaimer at the end of each of my posts to say "Generalization" out of fear of creating such a backlash, i apologise


to the o.p, otto's or pitbulls are a good choice

Before i carry on what general experience have you got raising a breeding BN's?, if you think BN's stop grazing/cleaning algae when older which again you change from stop to nowhere near as good to stop again throughout 3 posts on this thread!!

backlash lol, we'll leave it there m8, you sound a little to argumentitive in trying to get a point across when you seem to be basing off your own experiennce of what PROBABLY keeping 3-4 BN's in your time lol.

The OP i have 3 ADULT BN's now in a 180 litre tank with plenty of algae before i put them in there.... tank lets put it this way is virtually clean from algae now!!!!... im not sure where scatz gets his info from lol, but as i said above there are plenty of BN's when older will and do a fantastic job of cleaning algae from anywhere on a tank, however some do get lazy and wont touch it at all.... but ive had babies at 2-3 mnths old that wouldnt even consider cleaning algae... so again ill say hit and miss



Edited just to say..... im not trying to be rude scatz, my experience with BN's is extensive over the years and my experiences aswell as alot of people i know that keep and breed various BN species is based on fact and not just hearsay.

Your experiences are your experiences but unless youve kept alot in the past (which i doubt to that extent) then your knowledge is superficial!!

 

[bagu]

^ i agree

BN's are fantastic algae cleaners, they are brilliant! lazy; i think not mate =/

go with the experience of JenCliBee rather than your gut feeling

 

[JenCliBee]

^ i agree

BN's are fantastic algae cleaners, they are brilliant! lazy; i think not mate =/

go with the experience of JenCliBee rather than your gut feeling

Cheers bagu, glad someone agrees with me lol

 

[scatz]

where is the Backlash?
the o.p asked which plec was the better cleaner, you gave the impression that bn's continue to be good cleaners where in fact "most" wont, i was just pointing out the fact that "most" bn, once reaching adulthood stop grazing on the algae growth. In future, i will remember to add a disclaimer at the end of each of my posts to say "Generalization" out of fear of creating such a backlash, i apologise


to the o.p, otto's or pitbulls are a good choice

Before i carry on what general experience have you got raising a breeding BN's?, if you think BN's stop grazing/cleaning algae when older which again you change from stop to nowhere near as good to stop again throughout 3 posts on this thread!!

backlash lol, we'll leave it there m8, you sound a little to argumentitive in trying to get a point across when you seem to be basing off your own experiennce of what PROBABLY keeping 3-4 BN's in your time lol.

Edited just to say..... im not trying to be rude scatz, my experience with BN's is extensive over the years and my experiences aswell as alot of people i know that keep and breed various BN species is based on fact and not just hearsay.

Your experiences are your experiences but unless youve kept alot in the past (which i doubt to that extent) then your knowledge is superficial!!

Lmao, your right, its been many years since i have kept any type of ancistrus and no, i didn't keep them for decades, i sold them on as i didn't want umpteen tanks running simply to grow on the fry, but dont assume that everyone else has no experience compared to you, and i'm not being arguementative, the whole idea of a forum is to get experiences from all of its members so that the OP can get the full range, not just from 1 person that says its this way or that

 

[JenCliBee]

Lmao, your right, its been many years since i have kept any type of ancistrus and no, i didn't keep them for decades, i sold them on as i didn't want umpteen tanks running simply to grow on the fry, but dont assume that everyone else has no experience compared to you, and i'm not being arguementative, the whole idea of a forum is to get experiences from all of its members so that the OP can get the full range, not just from 1 person that says its this way or that

Last thing to be said now becasue it's boring me to be honest lol..... you said above "the whole idea of a forum is to get experiences from all of its members so that the OP can get the full range, not just from 1 person that says its this way or that"

But you stated in another reply

ask most that have kept bn's and most will tell you that the adults especially males, are no where near as good a cleaner as they used to be when they were younger

Well thats not your opinion is it your saying that most will say the same.... however noone so far has backed you up and there are many people that keep BN's on this forum... however people have a areed with me.... i never claimed you didnt know anythink i mearly stated i doubt your experirence is extensive, was i right?, yes becasue you said so your self above.
I also didnt say that i have superior knowledge above anybody, again if your read what i actually put i stated i have entensive experience in raising, breeding and keeping all ages of bristlenose.

You know what i cant get though, your wrong and know so but yet your still argueing about a different matter, i agreed with some parts you said about SOME not all can be a little lazy with age but yet you instantly pickup on things that werent ment as you took them nor how i wrote them lol.

BTW m8 if you wanted to keep BN's but not raise the fry remove the eggs and feed them to other fish, giving an excuse to get rid of fish for that purpose doesnt stand 1 iota when methods of control can be taken lol.

anyways m8 take care, it's been interesting lol

jen

Edited just to say.... remove the link to another forum in your sig, not allowed, and the people that run it are silly egotastic know it alls, thats have nothink better to do than argue instead of helping!!!