bristlenose flicking

[Cavafish]

Hey Sam, Sorry )

Didn't mean any harm by my comments just trying to give you my information as accurate as possible.

If I start messing with my water parameters I may end up in a right ole mess. Apart from reinstating a large piece of bogwood that has been removed for some time for repairs, is there a safe way of lowering the pH?

 

[smithrc]

bogwood would be a good idea - especially with bristles...

 

[sam]

I've got a similar pH to you and my bristlenose has been fine. I've had him for three months. Bogwood is recommended for BNs so it would be a good idea to put some in anyway.

Good Luck.

 

[Angry_Platy]

I've got a similar pH to you and my bristlenose has been fine. I've had him for three months. Bogwood is recommended for BNs so it would be a good idea to put some in anyway.

Good Luck.

My fish have been in the same pH for ages now...no probs, no ich....

If the other fish have been flicking without whitepsots perhaos they are just playing!!

 

[Boots n all]

l would not worry about the ph, bn's are tough little buggers, we keep them in our african tanks and they have that high ph level and they breed in there too, freeeee fooood for the bigger African

 

[Cavafish]

Thanks guys.

My pH has always been like this even with two large pieces of bogwood in the tank.

I do still have one piece in there, there is a second to put back in. Hope they dont rasp too much of it away - its expensive!!

I will keep a close weather-eye on them all. As the flicking thing seems to have come to nothing in my other fish and they all seem perfectly healthy I wasn't tooo concerned but I dont know much about b.noses so it got me thinking that it could be something.

Love my fishes

Cava

 

[yhbae]

Guys, bristlenose will handle pH of 8.0 just fine! Many cichlid forums even SUGGEST bristlenoses in their african tanks. I have one in mine (out of the other tank, which has pH of only 7.2) and she is doing great!

If all fishes are flashing, it could be an early signs of ich - that's how mine got started while back... Can you see ANY silvery little dots in any of the fishes in your tank?

 

[samthefishman]

hmmm so planetcatfish is giving out false information? http/www.planetcatfish.com/core/index.htm look at bristlenose in there, and look at the Ph.

 

[Boots n all]

No, it just shows how adaptable these fish really are

 

[yhbae]

Yes, I too have found out that most fishes are surprizingly adaptable to environments different from their native ones. I tend to focus more on the stability than the rightness, because of this reason. For breeding though, I'd think most would try to get closer to their native environment...

 

[Oddball]

Sam, not to be funny, but sites are good, but not the be all and end all. Fish can adapt given time, when i worked for my lfs one guy bought an oscar and left it in a tank for a LONG time. After this he decided he wanted to add other fish in and they died within a day. We checked his water and the water was pH8.2 nitrite 10ppm and nitrate off the scale, yet this oscar was in oerfect health as he had slowly adapted to it yet look up what people recommend for an oscar and by rights it should of been DEAD. My own Polypterus ornatapinnis came from lake Tanginika which has a pH of 8 happily lived in a tank of pH6.5 as it slowly altered due to bog wood.
Im not flaming or anything as u have a very valid point, and i agree that p.catfish is a good site but it is just a recommendation for the optimum local pH of the fish. Sure u may not get a B.nose to breed in an african tank but so long as the fish is physically healthy it should be okay.

Well thats enough of me rattling on now...........p.s. hows pleccy now?

 

[samthefishman]

Oddball, Thank you for your maturity about it.
Well I am one of them people who is able to say maybe i was wrong, and in this case i guess we are both right. I dont know much of Fish adapting to the Ph. I didnt even know it was possible. So thanks you for that bit of info as it will be useful to me in future.

 

[Oddball]

Thanks Sam appreciated, im sure we can benefit from each other in the future

 

[samthefishman]

Sounds great

 

[Cavafish]

This is great guys.

I hate it when I need to differ from in opinion or experiences from someone as I'm never sure how it will come across or be taken. Even if I word things with care I find myself waiting in the wings with an apology.

Betty (my female bristlenose) is fine. She has only done her twisty flicky thing once since (that i've seen) but is still motoring around the tank ok and feeding well. The golden barbs are still thier usual selves swimming and eating and sometimes flicking. Made my eyes water peering in the tank for so long and hard last night but there are definately NO spots on any fish. How long does whitespot normally take to become whitespots on the fish that you can see?

One more query: I was watching Betty (the b.nose) last night and she has a "ragged" back edge to her tail. Is this normal?? It doesnt look bad but I couldn't get a look at the male to compare them and so wasn't sure. I am a bit wary of this as she is spending her hiding time underneath the Juwel filter which is where the clown loaches hide out and they once chewed each others tails when their previous hiding place got too small for all of them. (Hence one piece of bogwood currently removed from tank for repairs).

When I say "ragged" I mean like their dorsal fin is rather than like the smooth outline of a cardinal tetras fins for example.

Many thanks as usual B)

Cava