BREEDING VEILTAILS

[yeeviabetta]

i may be 15 but yes i do have money!!!

how will it come to $1000/£500

i dont plan to buy a 100gallon tank for every betta

Since you have money, go to aquabid and get some great halfmoon pairs from Thailand. Then breed it. Nobody will nipping on you.

 

[OohFeeshy]

OOI, yeevie and other breeders, how many males do you usually get out of a spawn? Is it about equal or more of one than the other?

 

[newfishies]

there was a great thread a few months ago discussing the costs, etc of breeding VT. take a look through it, you'll get some more ideas. also do a search f0r "breeding bettas" on this site and you will get tons of info/opinions.

here is the link:
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...breeding+bettas

here is one of the best post in the link (if you don't read the whole thread)
p.s. it was written by SRC- sorry to steal it!!

quote:
The thing is no one likes to be told what to do...this is a gimme. So instead of telling each other what we should or shouldn't do (cas no one needs a second mother or father ) and everyone get's their knickers in a knot...let's look at what exactly is going to transpire here and what is trying to be pointed out....

Let's all just sit back, calm down, and think about things for a second.

(we will use this for example sake)
Let's say you wanted to breed dogs.

You wouldn't go to the pound and pick out a couple of "really pretty" dogs to "practice" breeding with, now would you (no, of course not)...even if you have people lined up to take them. That's just not how it works.

You are supposed to breed to better whatever specie you are involved with...not breed more "mutts" into that species community.

Breeding Veils, who have no traceable pedigree is kinda silly...isn't it? There is nothing for you to better. No tail type, no color pattern, no nothing. These are live animals..not a piece of paper that you can just wad up and throw away when you are done "practicing".

Do you have 200+ friends/relatives that want betta's? (I know you are thinking "yeah right, that won't happen to me. Like I'll even get close to that many."...well you can't have that mentality..you have to plan for WHAT IF) Because what are you going to do with 200+ baby betta's? What happens if 90% are males..where are you going to put 190+ jars? Can you afford to feed them live foods, afford to buy them frozen foods, buy heating pads and/or heaters to keep them all warm, buy water conditioner for them, change water daily, buy containers large enough to house them properly..do you have time to properly cultivate your live foods..so they don't run out? Not to mention what your water bill will be from using so much water every single day. That is alot of water. A single Beanie Baby box holds 56oz of water...think about that...56oz x 190 boxes x 90 days (at the least).

128 oz = 1 gallon.
56oz = 1 Beanie Baby box

56oz x 190 boxes = 10,640 oz a day

10,640 oz x 90 days = 957,600 oz for 3 months

957,600oz = 7,482 gallons of water..for a 3 month period.

Do you live alone? Or with parents/roomates..what are they gonna think about that? What are they gonna think about all those containers cluttered about, sitting everywhere?


You can't give them away until they are 2 months old atleast...so what will you do with them until then? What will you do with them afterwards if people back out on taking them..and trust me...people always back out...that's how it goes with animals...things "come up".

The school idea is great...but what if there are no schools doing anything like that in her area? What then ? I know we don't have anything at the schools around here...they sell candy..not peddle fish. They have a contract with the company that provides it.

The only way I could see it even being a logically..feasible idea, would be if you had a contract set up before hand with a LFS or something..to take the babies..otherwise I think you are setting yourself up for a big heart ache...when you have all these babies and aren't able to properly take care of them, they start getting sick from lack of proper care, you run out of space and you are told to "get rid of some"...and you either have to start culling or they start dying off, because you can't afford to medicate all of them or keep them.

I don't think you want that to be your first experience with breeding. I'm sure you want it to be a happy experience..not a tough luck one.

Why not just keep those Veils for pets, spend $20-30 on a couple of good males, and some nice females...and then breed good, quality betta's. I'm sure your LFS would jump at the chance to have something other then Veils...because they can sell them for more, plus it will bring more people to their shops after people spread the word about "these new betta's" they saw at the LFS".

Here is a little price Break down for you:

Beanie Baby boxes (12) = $30 (for 190 that's roughly $285)
Water conditioner (1 bottle treats 200 gallons) = $5 (for 7,482 gallons that's roughly $187.05)
Frozen Bloodworms (1 pack) =$5 (for 3 months and 200 fish that's roughly $50)
Heating pads (you can fit 6 boxes on 1 pad) = $10 each (for 190 boxes that's roughly $315)
Total = roughly $837.05 ..before taxes/shipping.
That's just for 3 months, and that's just a few of the many items you will need..not mentioning medications should they get ill, or silk plants, ect.


Just some things to mull over in your head before you proceed with this endevor.

 

[yeeviabetta]

OOI, yeevie and other breeders, how many males do you usually get out of a spawn? Is it about equal or more of one than the other?

So far, I got more males than female especially the red babies. I run out of beanie bean container that I just ordered. I have 82 total. When I look at the red babies tank, I still can find many small males. I need to get more beanie boxes.
Forgot to add, I still have giant plakat babies(got males), and two blue line batch babies coming. I might extend a new room this summer for the bettas and build barracks like bettaman If I sold my sculpture to a doctor for $6,000 USD. LOL

 

[mrplaty]

has anybody bought a betta from aquaid??

is the quality good??

do any of you have bettas that i coul buy???

how long does it take for them to arrive??

 

[yeeviabetta]

has anybody bought a betta from aquaid??

is the quality good??

do any of you have bettas that i coul buy???

how long does it take for them to arrive??

Now you are tuning in the right channel. Yes. I got all my breeder bettas from Thailand in aquabid. Just tells you that I got 8 bettas coming in this march 27. I can't help myself to get those owesome bettas. Will show you guys what I got later.
TIPS FOR TODAY!
A good saving tips. Go to aquabid and look into the closed post. Check which betta you love to breed that is not sold. Contact the seller and asking them for discount. You will be a shock to get good price.

 

[mrplaty]

On average including postage how much would it cost for a decent pair of bettas

yeevia are those bettas in your signature been bought from aquabid

 

[yeeviabetta]

On average including postage how much would it cost for a decent pair of bettas

yeevia are those bettas in your signature been bought from aquabid

Yup. They are mostly my breeders betta. Some just my collections only and not to breed. I put one in 10 gallon tank and he loves it. Of course the green one. LOL
As for the price, you need to talk to the seller. If you in USA, it cost more.

 

[mrplaty]

why do the auctions on aquabid get closed???

 

[yeeviabetta]

If you click on the front page in aquabid, look at the "Home | Register | Sell Item | Closed Auctions | Items Wanted | My Account | Feedback | "
Click the Closed Auction button. Then it will asked you what catagories and how many days. After sellecting, it will show you all the closed auction. Then go and email the seller and asking for discount. I always do that and I got discount. Besides, I already know the sellers from Thailand. They are very nice and helpful.

 

[MegTheFish]

Everybody is saying that you need to use Beanie Boxes, but those are REALLY expensive and you can find glass jars or something for a lot cheaper...somebody even said you could ask resturants and maybe they might give you some free jars that they were going to throw out otherwise. You can use cheese-wiz jars (1.5 liters) and mayo jars...or mustard jars...LoL. There's tons of possibilites...you wouldn't be able to find 200+ jars around your house, but even finding a few would cut down your costs.

 

[SRC]

p.s. it was written by SRC- sorry to steal it!!

lol I had already posted that in here..but that's ok.

He obviously isn't reading posts in here..or he would have seen it..and wouldn't have been able to say it wouldn't cost close to $1000, or maybe he would it seems he would...seems he just wants to hear what he wants and skips over the parts he doesn't particularly like.

It's obvious the teenager in him is in full rampage and in "I'm not gonna listen and I'm gonna do whatever I want" mode at this point.

Just wait, this person will be back in here with 500 fish that are sick and dying, that they can't get rid of, or can't afford to treat/take care of.. wanting people's sympathy later..I can almost guarantee it.

He has so many people who want these Veils..that he has to advertise his swords and mollies in HUGE print in his signature.


It is blatently clear this person does not listen to anyone..because he just asked a retorical question..."does anyone have fish they'd sell me"...when Bettaman already offered up a great breeding pair for him to start out with ...for a quite reasonable price I might add.

People who don't listen..and who want to "practice" breeding animals..annoy me to no end.

I doubt they'd have wanted their parents to "practice" having kids when they had them. Why practice with unwanted fish? If you are going to "practice" why not "practice" with reputable fish that will be easy to sell/give away if you are successful?

Maybe I should go "practice" breeding dogs..ooo or maybe kittens...no wait..how about Rabbits..yeah everyone wants rabbits.


*just think if everyone who came in here "thinking" of breeding veils had bred them, instead of being talked out of it *faints* just THINK of all the veils that would have flooded the market....that'd be a lot of sick, dead, dying, rotting fish *

Beanie boxes are easier to use, keep, and store then round sided jars. And breeding fish is NOT cheap, if you want to breed animals you need to provide the best care for them..and that includes housing. Beanie boxes are not that expensive when bought in bulk (how you need them when breeding) at like $1.25 a box. JEEZE that's expensive...lemme tell ya, esepceially when you can expect to make $20-30 a fish. Well, that's IF you have nice fish though..

 

[mrplaty]

oi!!!!!!actually i am listening to other people

tHATS WHY i AM BUYING A PAIR OF BETTAS OFF OF BETTA MAN!!!!!!

 

[mm_simb]

I would still disagree on you breeding any bettas until you're old enough to take full responsibility for the cost of 200+ fry. My boyfriend bred bettas even when I told him not to and he had a lot of fry. They ended up dying I'm sure since I didn't see them the week after they showed up. I never bothered to ask what happened to them. It's sad that you just want to breed them for your own entertainment.

 

[mrplaty]

I WANT TO BREED THEM FOR MY OWN ENTERTAINMENT

I DNT THINK SO!!!