BREEDING VEILTAILS

[mrplaty]

nuttygal where do you go to get your fish and where do u get your bowls for your bettas??

 

[SRC]

Veils are NOT misunderstood, actually they are VERY understood, in that there are WAY too many of them.

Breeding Sea Monkies can be very challanging..so I seriously suggest trying those.

I think breeding fish should be like breeding dogs/cats....only the best, most genetically perfect of the specie should be bred, not just because they are "pretty".

You're already breeding 2 types of fish...is that not enough for you? Do you realize what goes on when you have betta fry? They aren't like swordtails or mollies..that can be housed together until you get rid of them..no no no.

Betta's after about 2 months of age (well before you can sell them) have to be seperated and housed in individual containers. Those need water changed everyday...I figured it up one time.....

Breeding Veils, who have no traceable pedigree is kinda silly...isn't it? There is nothing for you to better. No tail type, no color pattern, no nothing. These are live animals..not a piece of paper that you can just wad up and throw away when you are done "practicing".

Do you have 200+ friends/relatives that want betta's? (I know you are thinking "yeah right, that won't happen to me. Like I'll even get close to that many."...well you can't have that mentality..you have to plan for WHAT IF) Because what are you going to do with 200+ baby betta's? What happens if 90% are males..where are you going to put 190+ jars? Can you afford to feed them live foods, afford to buy them frozen foods, buy heating pads and/or heaters to keep them all warm, buy water conditioner for them, change water daily, buy containers large enough to house them properly..do you have time to properly cultivate your live foods..so they don't run out? Not to mention what your water bill will be from using so much water every single day. That is alot of water. A single Beanie Baby box holds 56oz of water...think about that...56oz x 190 boxes x 90 days (at the least).

128 oz = 1 gallon.
56oz = 1 Beanie Baby box

56oz x 190 boxes = 10,640 oz a day

10,640 oz x 90 days = 957,600 oz for 3 months

957,600oz = 7,482 gallons of water..for a 3 month period.

Do you live alone? Or with parents/roomates..what are they gonna think about that? What are they gonna think about all those containers cluttered about, sitting everywhere?

You can't give them away until they are 2 months old atleast...so what will you do with them until then? What will you do with them afterwards if people back out on taking them..and trust me...people always back out...that's how it goes with animals...things "come up".

Here is a little price Break down for you:

Beanie Baby boxes (12) = $30 (for 190 that's roughly $285)
Water conditioner (1 bottle treats 200 gallons) = $5 (for 7,482 gallons that's roughly $187.05)
Frozen Bloodworms (1 pack) =$5 (for 3 months and 200 fish that's roughly $50)
Heating pads (you can fit 6 boxes on 1 pad) = $10 each (for 190 boxes that's roughly $315)
Total = roughly $837.05 ..before taxes/shipping.
That's just for 3 months, and that's just a few of the many items you will need..not mentioning medications should they get ill, or silk plants, ect.


Just some things to mull over in your head before you proceed with this endevor.

Also, at 15...do you think your parents are gonna support that kinda financial load on their bills? Not to mention the amount of space it will require for the fry once they reach 2 months of age? And then for all teh fish you are left with after you can't get rid of them...because I don't know too many people willing to pay $15 fora betta (and that's just shipping).

 

[littlefishie]

SRC brings up several valid points.

It's not only the issue of your breeding stock, but the financial aspect as well. Nearly a thousand dollars, in US currency. I've no idea what that is in pounds, but that's still a lot of money for a 15 year old.

I'm 18 and I still don't really have the cash or time for it.. I've had one attempted CT spawn which failed because the father ate the eggs. Had the spawn been successful I had a place for the fry and everything, but my parents didn't like the idea.

This might be something you'd want to put off until you can properly care for and house the fry.

 

[tekknocolor]

You mean this one?

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...something+needs

Yeah, that's the one.

 

[Synirr]

I have a lot of absolutely gorgeous veils that I would LOVE to breed... but probably never will, because I know how hard it would be to home all the fry. I'm waiting until I can find some really good breeding stock before I even attempt breeding -- at least that way I know I can find homes for the fry.

 

[OohFeeshy]

Go with bettaman! You'd be a fool not to uptake that offer. Listen to everyone on here- Don't breed VTs.

 

[MegTheFish]

If you know you will be able to find homes for all of the fry (say that you have 3 or 4 petstores that would be willing to take as many as they can) wouldn't it be a good idea to start with breeding VTs? Thats what I've always been told, on many message boards (Petfish.net, fishprofiles.com) that in your first spawn, your likely to make a mistake or two and won't end up with a whole lot of fry (you'll still have lots though). And its a good idea to...well..."practice" with a VT. (I know I'm going to get harrased for saying that... ) Thats just my opinion...please don't flame at me.

 

[mrplaty]

i agree wid u meg

 

[OohFeeshy]

Yes, but only becasue you want to breed VTs. In theory, Megs right, but in practise, I'd disagree. Yes, you might loose a lot on your first spawn, but you can easilly try again. And if you are successful, you don't want a room full of VT mutts thet you only bred to practise on.

 

[mrplaty]

ill be fine trust me..... i no people who want lots

 

[Skylar]

Yes, but do you have the cash to pay for all of this? It will come to almost $1000 US! You are 15 years old. Find something less expensive to breed. Nobody who runs a respectable LFS will buy veiltails.

They are so undesirable in the betta world. Get those bettas that Bettaman offered. They are crowntails, you will have much better looking bettas and you will be able to sell them for more as well. Do you have 500+ friends who know enough to take care of a betta? I highly doubt it.

Skylar

 

[mrplaty]

i may be 15 but yes i do have money!!!

how will it come to $1000/£500

i dont plan to buy a 100gallon tank for every betta

 

[Kara101584]

I wish I had $1000.00 to spend on breeding Bettas! I have 2 jobs and I still can't afford it. I was thinking about it, and I might in the late summer, but I'd have to start saving now! That's a whole lotta money!!!

I'd say you should get those fishies from Bettaman, thats a good deal! And I'm sure lots of people would want one, maybe you could make some of that $1000.00 back in selling them! Wouldn't it be nice to turn a profit?

 

[mrplaty]

it will not cost $1000

 

[OohFeeshy]

It will. When you add up the cost of-
Beanie boxes
Bloodworms/Microworms
BBS
Water conditioner
Heat pads

And everything else, it will cost an awful lot. And if you're lucky, you might sell a VT for.... £2 each? Thats if your lucky. You might make a profit, but not much.