Minxy, thanks for all your help today, and a special thanks to little man for keeping my pair out of the way and under control (ish) have just been upstairs, remember the little one came past with half a toilet roll! the rest is in the bathroom, my bedroom and all over their bedroom, they have had a wonderful time, little one cried because his BEST friend left lol. Tell little man Seymour is now patroling the 180 the fronts and some the ellioti are now in the 300. Seymour is not fussed with the little Ellioti he is too busy flashing off to me lol, Brasillies also got their colour now and look absolutely fantastic, thank you so much again for your help and the fish and for taking brill pics of the babies, I forgot to ask you to snap Bailey for Wills so maybe next time you can.