Angel Issues

Haha, Yea well the only place I can get a pair is ebay :|
 
Go to shop and put your finger up to glass of tank with small angels (body of 50p or smaller) and the ones that come to front first with all fins extended, brightest colours and most curious/likely to nip at their nearby mates incase they steal food... likely to be male! The smaller, slightly thinner ones at the top of tank that hang back and have slightly shorter fins and generally look a little less exciting... they are likely females...
 
Spend 15 minutes staring at a tank of angels with that exact thought in mind.. you will slowly figure which ones are likely male and female... :)
 
Introducing established angels is nothing short of a nightmare, relies on you having multiple tanks to switch territories and who is where and reintroduce over and over until they accept each other or it might never happen...
 
well I know that my big guy is a male then, he'll follow my finger. Flare up his colour at anything curios and pretty much a big brute. 
 
So what do you think Mbou, Will I have to take them both back? :/
 
That's no guarantee! Not with only one or two angels :( especially when older..
 
With smaller angels and a lot of them in a tank, you can almost be certain of the dominant ones being male ;) hence they come to front of tank first... also the males tend to grow faster in their fins :)
 
With adults... they are a LOT more difficult to compare with each other as they are nigh on identical, again, if you had a massive tank with 20 in, you'd likely be able to pick out the obvious males and females (you'd probably still find that you had no idea what half of them were!)
 
I sent them back to the fish store, it didn't work out.
 
So, I got new guys.
 
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These two, They seem to be okay. But time will tell as they mature.
 
100% utterly a guess.... but male on right... female on left....
 
Its the personalities that make it easier for me to guess male and female so hard to guess from photo... but... that said...
 
The shape of the ventral fins... narrower and longer is normally a male trait, shorter and wider is normally a female trait...
 
One on right also looks more curious of camera and seems to be the leader, is ahead and more alert, is chunky and quite... I don't know... broad looking...  the one on the left is hanging back, maybe a bit shyer or more submissive, has flatter, narrower face and isn't holding dorsal fin quite so upright...
 
Hopefully you have a pair there!! :)
 
That said, I would add some melafix for a few days, they have right tatty little finnage going on! Typical in young imported angels but being so young and tatty makes them much more prone to bacterial infections... better safe than sorry! If no melafix, if you have any medication with Acriflavin in like Myxazin, a one or two day dose of that will work alternatively...


And they are pretty! And going to get prettier still!! That 'female' already has beautifully dark colouring!
 
A lot of my LFS angels have some fin ripping issues. They have around 6 tanks with angels in them and of course fin ripping does occur in it every so often.
 
I may buy myself some melafix at somepoint and get that going.
 
The only thing I have on me is some Anti Internal Bacteria from interpet left.
 
That wont do much, better off waiting :)
 
Ya... angels are terrible for nipping each other when in large numbers but the bigger problem was the smaller the angels, the more there are per bag when imported. This means they often come in with ammonia burns to the tips of their fins (is what your ones look like rather than nipped) because they are imported from places like Singapore or Thailand at about 30 to what is equivalent of a medium fish bag only 1/3 full of water at most. It will heal really fast though, give them a week or two :)
 
Thanks mbou, I'll try and keep my water as clean as possible. That and my filter runs UV too, It was funny as well. The guy at the fish store netted these two at the sametime (Suggesting that they might have been paired up at the LFS fish tank)
 
I guess it might just be luck but there you go. Only time will tell :p
 
My first two angels i kept were black angels. They were absolutely wonderful. They look great :)
 
Yea shame I can't get them to eat today.
 
just give it a few days up to a week they will eat eventually :D stress and shock from the more and from the fin nipping wont help things just need to give it time :D
 

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