40g breeder plans...

[Colin_T]

What's wrong with having rainbows and gudgeons showing off?

You reckon the gudgeons display better than that or Iriatherina?

 

[Rocky998]

What's wrong with having rainbows and gudgeons showing off?

You reckon the gudgeons display better than that or Iriatherina?

No no no... You're not understanding.
I just want a graceful fish for the top. One that doesn't get into little show offs with males a bunch.
The gudgeons already put on a show like this.
For the top, I just want a peaceful fish that chills out and enjoys life at the top. I love the colors on the Pseudomugils Gertrudae, they fir in well with the gudgeons and sterbai corys, but I don't like the way they act and kinda go everywhere.

 

[Colin_T]

fussy little bugga aren't you

 

[Rocky998]

fussy little bugga aren't you

I guess I can be
I just know that I will have the fish for their life span. I want something where I know they'll be happy and I'll be happy!

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

Ha @Rocky998, give us a budget, you have all these new fish designs monthly, but at the end of the day Mum and Dad have the money and won't give you any. So, what are you doing with all this information we are providing?

Not really our business how he negotiate pocket money with his parents, but whatever happens, he's going to learning from all the information others are sharing, and that's never a bad thing, right?

Iriatherina werneri and Pseudomugil gertrudae aren't super fast and don't dash about madly. They are sedate little fish that get excited and show off

Check YouTube and watch some videos of them breeding.

You can also ask Adorable dearheart? I think she has P. luminatus and furcatus. Or someone has them.

I do have luminatus! Just the four of them so far, but hoping for more soon. It was Valinesa who had furcatus though.

I'm hoping to have a school of luminatus and possibly a school of the celebes together in my planted 63g once it's all established.
Sorry Rocky, I don't know enough about peacock gudgeons to make a suggestion for another fish to add.

 

[Rocky998]

Not really our business how he negotiate pocket money with his parents, but whatever happens, he's going to learning from all the information others are sharing, and that's never a bad thing, right?

Yes. Definitely none of anyone's business. I rarely (basically never) talk about money with anyone besides my parents.
Hopefully I do actually get this done though.
My baby gudgeons are almost at a point where I can sell so that is exciting! I plan to sell them each for anywhere between $7-$10 and I have apx 11 of them. So that's a fair amount of money there! And I can't get the new tank until my little precious babies are moved out so that will take time. Hopefully I can ship them! I'm looking for ways...
Then I have a fairly expensive set of toys I don't use anymore that I NEED to sell.... I've been trying to remove them from my room for ages now
The set of toys (all together) costs about $88, so add that on to the gudgeons and the [classified] amount of money I have now... That should give me a very nice push.
I also have an Xbox 360 I need to get rid of cause my parents said we may get an upgrade (I was surprised when they said they were doing that...)
And sense I bought that 360, I can sell it for a nice chunk of money with all the games, controllers, and accessories.
Hopefully all that plays out well!

do have luminatus! Just the four of them so far, but hoping for more soon. It was Valinesa who had furcatus though.

I'm hoping to have a school of luminatus and possibly a school of the celebes together in my planted 63g once it's all established.
Sorry Rocky, I don't know enough about peacock gudgeons to make a suggestion for another fish to add.

I really like those red neons! Extremely stunning!
Just don't actually know if I want to go the small rainbowfish route... Something just seems to be missing in their personality.

It's fine! Not alot of people have had them so it's understandable.

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

Just don't actually know if I want to go the small rainbowfish route... Something just seems to be missing in their personality.

Nothing missing in their personalities - they have a lot of personality for a very tiny fish! But if they don't grab you, then there's nothing wrong with that. I'd much prefer people only get fish they really want to keep that will also work in their set up, not force it and end up not liking them much.

By the same token, don't try to force fish together that you've been warned won't work, by people who have a great deal more knowledge and experience, just because you really, really want the fish and want it to work. I don't mean to never question authority either, just... I don't even know how to express it, so I should probably stop here...

 

[Rocky998]

Nothing missing in their personalities - they have a lot of personality for a very tiny fish! But if they don't grab you, then there's nothing wrong with that. I'd much prefer people only get fish they really want to keep that will also work in their set up, not force it and end up not liking them much.

By the same token, don't try to force fish together that you've been warned won't work, by people who have a great deal more knowledge and experience, just because you really, really want the fish and want it to work. I don't mean to never question authority either, just... I don't even know how to express it, so I should probably stop here...

I understand completely! Im a questioning type so when I question a very knowledgeable member, its not because I don believe them I just want to understand a bit more on their reasoning.

Like for instance the pearl gouramis I wanted... I REALLY love pearl gouramis BUT, what I've learned about them from members here, they dont fit in with my fish really. So I sadly had to accept that and move on.

 

[Rocky998]

Nothing missing in their personalities - they have a lot of personality for a very tiny fish!

Oh no no! Im not saying it like that... For me they were missing something. I felt like they were just top dwelling peacock gudgeons and while I love my gudgeons I wanted a somewhat unique personality from each fish. The rainbow fish just seemed to be lacking the more calming and graceful side.

 

[Wills]

Have you thought about a Halfbeak species? Some of them come from more alkaline waters.

 

[AdoraBelle Dearheart]

Are the peacock gudgeons likely to stop breeding once sharing a tank with other fish? Are you okay with that? Cories really don't grasp the concept of territories and will eat eggs and fry just by bumbling across them, not by hunting them down or anything. But how furious are the gudgeons likely to be when cories amble into their territory, especially if they're trying to guard eggs?

 

[Rocky998]

Are the peacock gudgeons likely to stop breeding once sharing a tank with other fish? Are you okay with that? Cories really don't grasp the concept of territories and will eat eggs and fry just by bumbling across them, not by hunting them down or anything. But how furious are the gudgeons likely to be when cories amble into their territory, especially if they're trying to guard eggs?

I'm ok if I dont get anymore fry... It's been wonderful caring for them and all but I'm not planning to make a small business out of it (although it would be cool).
Male peacock gudgeons get slightly aggressive with their eggs and will chase other fish away.
Luckily, the sterbai cory are like double the size of a peacock gudgeon...
Also peacock gudgeons usually lay their eggs in a very cramped space where most fish can't fit (especially something like a chubby corydora).

Have you thought about a Halfbeak species? Some of them come from more alkaline waters.

Oh? I thought they may be too big... Let me check them out. Never thought of looking them up

 

[Wills]

I'm ok if I dont get anymore fry... It's been wonderful caring for them and all but I'm not planning to make a small business out of it (although it would be cool).
Male peacock gudgeons get slightly aggressive with their eggs and will chase other fish away.
Luckily, the sterbai cory are like double the size of a peacock gudgeon...
Also peacock gudgeons usually lay their eggs in a very cramped space where most fish can't fit (especially something like a chubby corydora).

Oh? I thought they may be too big... Let me check them out. Never thought of looking them up

Check these out - https://aquaticarts.com/search?q=halfbeak all out of stock at the moment but good profiles some are on SF too but pretty good here. A lot are found in broad range of habitats from brackish estuaries to swamps. Could be a good candidate I think and pretty interesting. Most species only get a few inches long.

 

[Wills]

This is a legendary dutch store that have a video of one of the species but very nice video as an example

Wills

 

[Rocky998]

They are a very interesting species!
The one on aquatic arts I really liked was the borneo redline but of course it needs a low PH
Really like how "oddbally" they look!
May get some depending on if I can find a good species