Your Thoughts

[mystus]

For past projects people have compared windmill (sort of how someone suggested comparing the different types of cycles), made a model tree house, made swords, made a taxedermied deer ( she created a table for an easier work thing). Also some one worked on different sports exercises and which worked the best.


Darkerwhite2:
1. The thing does have to have a purpose in doing something.

2. No it doesn't have any requirements.

3. Well I would create my own garden hopefully a unique one and that would be something new.


Bobtastic:
Its a project were you chose a subject. I would like to do it on the hobby of keeping fish. Then I have to research it. Then chose something to do, for example test the fish in cycle and without fish cycle. Then maybe take the best of both of them and try to combined them to get an even better result. Its for a general all subjects. Maybe even make a differently shaped tank who know but I just wanted people on here's ideas to get an even broader spectrum.

Hope this helps clear things up.

I would research something about the wild populations of our domestic aquarium fish. See what ones are doing well what ones are endangered. Look into if in fact the Aquarium trade is to blame for the decline of the wild populating or is it environmental. Then look into fish farming and is that better or worst for the environment and the fish around.

I would read that. infact I might just do my own little report on it.

Great idea!
But wouldn't some of the things be alittle hard to find out?

 

[aussieant32]

not really

i think the idea of the ammonia and cycle starting product is the best idea. This way you can see what has the best results and research reasons as to why and even make adjustments to get a mix that works even better than 1 or the other.

i dont see how making a 'garden' would give you something new unless you cross bred plants which i doubt you will be able to do.

 

[Darkerwhite2]

Then chose something to do, for example test the fish in cycle and without fish cycle. Then maybe take the best of both of them and try to combined them to get an even better result.

Please do not mix fish-in cycling with fishless cycling. That would mean adding ammonia to a tank with fish in it already adding unneeded and unwanted stress and harm to your fish.

Your planted tank is a good idea i think. You can explain how you set up the tank. what substrates you used and why, what fertilizers you used, what light source your using and why then you can choose plants that you like and explain why you chose them.

Also another neat point could be on how the plants affect the nitrogen cycle and use up Nitrates. Most if not all the information you would need is here on this forum in the planted section and the beginner section for the nitrogen stuff (assuming you haven't already discovered it).

Hope that helps. From the other project you listed i think creating an aqua-scaped aquarium would suffice.

May i ask what subject/grade this project is for?

Good luck

 

[mystus]

Aussieant32: thanks for your idea.

Darkerwhite: I was thinking of getting to tanks putting them side by side with exactly the same things (size, filter, plants ect.) and having one with one and one with another. This was proposed in a previous post.

The subject is all the fields.
The project is for a huge chunk of my grade and its for 8th grade to get to high school

 

[aussieant32]

no problems, id just leave fish out of whatever you try, if you are experimenting with things etc it would be better to leave fish out of it!

 

[mystus]

no problems, id just leave fish out of whatever you try, if you are experimenting with things etc it would be better to leave fish out of it!

Yes I an very against animal cruelty if you know what your doing.

 

[snowflake311]

It's just a Reaserch paper right? With the internet nothing is hard to find info on. It's just how much digging do you want to do.

Outline would be

Pick 4 types of fish
look up if they are endanger
look into why

then look in to fish farms
what kind of damage they do

make a conclution as to do fish frams help endanger fish or do they do more harm. That's my idea.


Or do a thing about farm raised fish for food vs wild caught fish for food what is better for the enviroment and what is better for us. You will be suprised at what you find.

 

[mystus]

It's just a Reaserch paper right? With the internet nothing is hard to find info on. It's just how much digging do you want to do.

Outline would be

Pick 4 types of fish
look up if they are endanger
look into why

then look in to fish farms
what kind of damage they do

make a conclution as to do fish frams help endanger fish or do they do more harm. That's my idea.


Or do a thing about farm raised fish for food vs wild caught fish for food what is better for the enviroment and what is better for us. You will be suprised at what you find.

Wait we eat tropical fish?
And its not just a paper its a hold thing about having an object i guess I could get a wild fish like a guppy and compare it to a store bought store raise fish.

 

[snowflake311]

No you could go on and do a thing about salmon or trout. Not tropical fish raised for food.

If you eat mahi you are eating a tropical fish.


I thought this was a reaserach paper gathering facts and making a conclution. But you are just compareing things?

 

[mystus]

No you could go on and do a thing about salmon or trout. Not tropical fish raised for food.

If you eat mahi you are eating a tropical fish.


I thought this was a reaserach paper gathering facts and making a conclution. But you are just compareing things?

Kinda sorta I'll give you all the info when I get it hopefully in a few days.

 

[Aphotic Phoenix]

- You could create your own fish food. There are already some recipes out there on the internet, but that doesn't mean you can't improve upon them!

- You could create your own aquarium plant fertilizer mix. Again, there are already recipes to give you a starting point, and sites to buy manageable quantities of chemicals online.

- Another planted tank idea: create your own special substrate mix. People have done a lot of experimenting with all kinds of materials... cat litter, bonsai tree soil, zeolite, osmocote, peat, etc.

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[mystus]

- You could create your own fish food. There are already some recipes out there on the internet, but that doesn't mean you can't improve upon them!

- You could create your own aquarium plant fertilizer mix. Again, there are already recipes to give you a starting point, and sites to buy manageable quantities of chemicals online.

- Another planted tank idea: create your own special substrate mix. People have done a lot of experimenting with all kinds of materials... cat litter, bonsai tree soil, zeolite, osmocote, peat, etc.

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Very good ideas.

I'll be looking into all of them.

Thanks!!

 

[JustKia]

Well, I still think you'd have a good shot with comparing a cycle without "bacteria in a bottle" to a cycle with "b-i-a-b".
You don't need any fish to do that, you are just preparing the tank for the fish.
You can be sure that you only have one variable - the b-i-a-b.
If you wanted to do fish-in vs fishless you would have too many variables to be able to make a judgement - after all you'd be having to do many many water changes to protect the fish from too much ammonia exposure and that could skew your results.

If there's one thing I learned in school and college it's when doing a project make your project brief very clear and precise, don't over complicate it.
Most teachers prefer that you look indepth at one thing rather than skimming over multiple things.

Aphotic Phoenix also has some good ideas there, if you go that route just be sure that there is only one variable, don't try and do all 3 on the same tanks/fish and remember to always have a control group/tank.

 

[mystus]

Well, I still think you'd have a good shot with comparing a cycle without "bacteria in a bottle" to a cycle with "b-i-a-b".
You don't need any fish to do that, you are just preparing the tank for the fish.
You can be sure that you only have one variable - the b-i-a-b.
If you wanted to do fish-in vs fishless you would have too many variables to be able to make a judgement - after all you'd be having to do many many water changes to protect the fish from too much ammonia exposure and that could skew your results.

If there's one thing I learned in school and college it's when doing a project make your project brief very clear and precise, don't over complicate it.
Most teachers prefer that you look indepth at one thing rather than skimming over multiple things.

Aphotic Phoenix also has some good ideas there, if you go that route just be sure that there is only one variable, don't try and do all 3 on the same tanks/fish and remember to always have a control group/tank.

Whats "b-i-a-b"? Does it have ammonia or something in it?

As for what Aphotic Phoenix said I would probably only make my own fish food.

 

[JustKia]

b-i-a-b = bacteria-in-a-bottle. Things like "stress-zyme", "cycle", "bactinettes", etc.
As per:

Well, I still think you'd have a good shot with comparing a cycle without "bacteria in a bottle" to a cycle with "b-i-a-b".

and:

Cycle the other using "bacteria in a bottle" (stress-zyme, cycle, etc) and see if one cycles faster than the other...

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