Fish Species Index

[gwand]

How would this index differ from what can be ascertained on the Seriously Fish web site?

 

[Back in the fold]

How would this index differ from what can be ascertained on the Seriously Fish web site?

A better class of people that you know would be giving you the low down .

 

[Coryking]

And the Coryking says "off with his headline!"

I prefer off with his head but hey maybe just removing his headline may work just as well.

I kind of respectfully disagree. Limiting knowledge based on an arbitrary number of posts or activity may keep good useful information out of the loop. There are many members that post regularly and I would venture to say many more that are active and hardly post at all but when they do it's pertinent. Armed with a solid team to edit any written info before it ever makes the page really takes care of misinformation on its own merit.

I understand where your coming from however I do feel that we need some sort of way to stop misinformation. By limiting who can post will help moderators save time editing and removing complete misinformation. It could also help prevent trolls. If enough people volunteer to help moderate then we may not need this limitation. As @Back in the fold says posters should have the expectation that there articles are edited before being made public. I would also like to have a private chat for index moderators to debate information in a article before posting.

 

[Magnum Man]

I agree here… ( and BTW, where is this… I did a search, and couldn’t find it ) as far as posting, I don’t think you should let me post… I think anyone posting should be a seasoned member, more seasoned than I, and also be a supporter… that’s not to say that someone new here, is not knowledgeable, but but it would be easy enough to PM a moderator to post a contribution, credited to the originator

 

[Coryking]

and BTW, where is this… I did a search, and couldn’t find it

It's near the bottom of the forum page under fish forum wiki

Link

🏛️ FishForums.net Wiki

Photos and information submitted by the FishForums.net Community.

www.fishforums.net

 

[gwand]

It's near the bottom of the forum page under fish forum wiki

Link

🏛️ FishForums.net Wiki

Photos and information submitted by the FishForums.net Community.

www.fishforums.net

Has this material been vetted and approved by our current group of cognoscenti?

 

[Coryking]

I think anyone posting should be a seasoned member, more seasoned than I, and also be a supporter… that’s not to say that someone new here, is not knowledgeable, but but it would be easy enough to PM a moderator to post a contribution, credited to the originator

I agree with you mostly however I believe locking posting to supporting members only would be a terrible idea. As it effectively is charging you to share useful information. I do agree we need some method to limit posting.

 

[Essjay]

Has this material been vetted and approved by our current group of cognoscenti?

Most of the first posts in each profile were written long ago. I seem to remember that each one had to be vetted by a mod before it was allowed to go live. At some point, probably during a software upgrade or when the forum changed hands, that requirement disappeared. Certainly there were many threads in the index 5 years ago which were questions not profiles so they obviously were not screened before going live. I have moved the odd thread out of the index even as recently as a few months ago.

 

[Essjay]

Thanks to @Back in the fold I have found the guidelines for posting in the Index - and yes, originally all threads had to be approved.

RULES FOR SUBMITTING PROFILES

Our aim is to create one of the largest and most comprehensive fish indexes available on the internet, for this reason these rules must be followed and adhered to.

• Rule 1: You must own or have owned the fish you are submitting a profile on. We do not want information that has just been copied down from a web site or book.
• Rule 2: The attached photograph must belong to you or a member of this forum. If the photo is not yours, please ask the member for permission before using it and give a credit in your post.
• Rule 3: You must stick to the format already in use. Profiles submitted in the wrong format may be edited or deleted.
• Rule 4: All profiles are subject to moderator checks and may be edited accordingly. If a profile is deemed unsuitable it may be refused. Check your information carefully.
• Rule 5: Do not hijack other peoples profiles. If you disagree with any of the information given please contact a moderator and explain what you find is wrong and if possible give sources that back up your belief.
• Rule 6: Please switch off your signature when posting a profile (unclick the enable signature box)

Your post will not become visible to the TFF forum until it is approved. N.B.: If you submit your profile without a photograph of your own species or you submit a diagram or a photo taken from the internet without permission of the owner it automatically will not be approved. If you do NOT provide us with a photograph within 30 days, your submission will be removed.

 

[Back in the fold]

Thanks to @Back in the fold I have found the guidelines for posting in the Index - and yes, originally all threads had to be approved.

Then we are getting close to taking off and revitalizing and rejuvenating The TFF Fish Species Index . No matter who gets invited to post I like the idea that the moderators will edit , fact check and approve posts to The Fish Species Index before they appear . Everything is in place to do this . The moderators have the means to confab with each other and it appears that the general consensus of all here likes the idea of an editor . This is a great opportunity for our members to contribute something long lasting and useful . Looks like Old Gary is coming out of retirement .

 

[Essjay]

The thing to bear in mind that no mod is an expert in every fish species; some of us are not experts in any fish species, certainly not expert enough to know if a newly written profile is accurate. My expertise as a mod is jumping on spammers before they have a chance to make a post (Gary's pretty good at that as well). And moving threads posted in the wrong place

 

[Back in the fold]

The thing to bear in mind that no mod is an expert in every fish species; some of us are not experts in any fish species, certainly not expert enough to know if a newly written profile is accurate. My expertise as a mod is jumping on spammers before they have a chance to make a post (Gary's pretty good at that as well). And moving threads posted in the wrong place

I thought you were all experts on every fish . But seriously , I’ve been looking the Fish Species Index over and it looks like it worked pretty good at the time . Most are 15 to 20 years old but read fairly accurate to me . My only complaints are that the species origin point is vague on some of them and spawning information is too brief . I hate to sound like a broken record but The TFF Fish Species Index is a great first reference point for newcomers here and has the potential to be very helpful . Someone asks a basic identification question and we can refer them to the appropriate TFF / FSI and then go from there . We also have several VERY knowledgeable hobbyists here and that is a resource we should value .

 

[Fishfunn]

Most of them are youngsters who are too confident about themselves but lacking experience. Or they're young people who think they know it all because they've been surfing the internet too much.

There are a lot of wannabee experts who use info on their own homepage or site which they've found elsewhere on the internet. And don't realize that much of that info are exact copies of texts from commercial aquarium books that don't tell the correct stories anyways.

Oh yes, definitely...! A lot of wannabee experts hate the real experts...

Completely true...! And often it's not about the subject itself but the persons themselves who don't realize that they are basically talking about themselves instead of the subject itself.
And people should be open to other's experiences. There are too many people who only see their own vision on things as the only correct way. Personal experiences "can" differ... which makes a discussion more interesting. And ask why a person sees it that way instead of arguing. Own experiences do matter as well... If one experiences something differently than the books says, it's worth to mention it and work on that.

I have to say that the TFF is the best website out there, and that is why I view it. There was one or two other fish sites that were horrible and tolerated trolling. That is why I haven't been back to those sites.

I haven't witnessed hardly any rude comments on this site, so the moderators must be doing a good job keeping the peace.

The thing we have to remember is this is social media, and rudeness and bullying are a danger.

Like other social media, all comments must be evaluated and deemed true or false by the reader.

 

[Fishmanic]

I have to say that the TFF is the best website out there, and that is why I view it. There was one or two other fish sites that were horrible and tolerated trolling. That is why I haven't been back to those sites.

I haven't witnessed hardly any rude comments on this site, so the moderators must be doing a good job keeping the peace.

The thing we have to remember is this is social media, and rudeness and bullying are a danger.

Like other social media, all comments must be evaluated and deemed true or false by the reader.

We delete rude posts. If warranted, using my trusty ban hammer, we ban the offender .
If someone makes an extremely offensive post, I convert my ban hammer into an ax and chop off their head.

 

[Back in the fold]

We delete rude posts and using my ban hammer, if needed, we ban the offender . If someone makes an extremely offensive post, I convert my ban hammer into an ax and chop off their head.
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