Why People Should Not Be Scared Of All Pitbulls.

[KingOfTheSea]

Its pitts were legal again they would just be fighting dogs and are bred to attack and kill, its in their blood. Chavs will get these dogs as status dogs and train them like they do the others and then you have a bunch of agressive pitts running around who can do more damage than other dogs.

Meh, im totally for the ban... Although Im a biased japanese chin keeper, although i have a terrier mix to.

 

[JenCliBee]

Pitbulls are gorgeous dogs same as staffs, mastiffs and the like but weather there nice or not they can and always have the chance of turning no matter how they are brought up or treated.

These owners that really have looked after and loved there dog and fully trusted it with any child wouldnt have thought for one minute there dog would have attacked never mind nearly kill a child but it happens and has happened.

The whole point of the people i can see here that are against having pitbulls around children are voicing more a concern and more caution than anythink, doesnt mean they dislike the dog nor does it mean they think they are vicious however air of caution is a good thing with a dog that could potentially kill an adult never mind a child weather it be a pitbull, staff, german shepherd or even lassy lol. Dogs always have a tolerable point, some even of the same species just have lower ones ** is it fully worth the risk ** my child/children would be always top priority if a 'potential' for danger is there.


By the way i have a staff and a german shepherd with a 2 year old so it's not like im against these dogs, more responsibly cautious.

Just one more thing, having a puppy grow up with a child is so so different than having a pitbull adult resscue dog in the house with children, do you fully know the background, even if the kennels think they do?

 

[Ludwig Venter]

I was in charge (voluntary) of the SPCA in a little village for 13 years. One day, a guy moved into our village with pitbulls.....

My phone never stopped ringing...."do you know, that someone just moved in with PITBULLS... and what are you (as the SPCA) going to do about it

I just replied.... "do you know we have Maltese poodles and Fox terriers in town"???...

The only reason why these dogs are classified, is because when they bite, (only when provoked) it is serious....

We were however very cautious of homing a pitbull from our kennels.... if not to the right owner, these dogs can be a threat.

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

My neightbours opposite our house used to have an absolute massive bull mastiff and when their family visited they also brought a bull mastiff...HUGE dogs but they always seemed nice.

A pitbull also attacked and killed my neighbours dog; my neighbour has learning difficulties and was walking her dog (like she does about 100 times a day) and the dog just ran out and attacked and killed her dog - he was a westie - I don't like westies but he was a nice westie.

 

[Sofia]

The topic of bull type breeds was quite well discussed in this thread here earlier in the year http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...hl=dog&st=0

interesting read i thought.

 

[loraxchick]

Its pitts were legal again they would just be fighting dogs and are bred to attack and kill, its in their blood. Chavs will get these dogs as status dogs and train them like they do the others and then you have a bunch of agressive pitts running around who can do more damage than other dogs.

Meh, im totally for the ban... Although Im a biased japanese chin keeper, although i have a terrier mix to.

banned? they are banned in some counties through out the US but not banned all over. are they in Brittan? that is sad, but dont blame the dog or the breed....balme the womer for being irresponsible!

My neightbours opposite our house used to have an absolute massive bull mastiff and when their family visited they also brought a bull mastiff...HUGE dogs but they always seemed nice.

A pitbull also attacked and killed my neighbours dog; my neighbour has learning difficulties and was walking her dog (like she does about 100 times a day) and the dog just ran out and attacked and killed her dog - he was a westie - I don't like westies but he was a nice westie.

there is no reason for any dog to be running lose. i dont care what breed or how friendly...for their OWN safety. there are cars and aggressive dogs (even ones on a leash that they could run up to- its happened to me THREE TIMES with my Pitbull, but the offleash dog was the agressive one-charged and got into it without so much as a sniff...one sadly was another pit, another a lab, and a chow...and guess who got beat up everytime!!!???...my dog. laid out flat and got ripped up good. so it is unfair to say it is 'in the pit breed to fight and kill'...it is also increasingly common for dogs to be STOLEN and resold for profit. sad but TRUE! look in craigslist and want ads in the paper. there are currently three posts on CL near me right now where owners' dogs were taken from the yard or CAR!!! a loose-running dog would be an easier target. then the thiefs wither sell them to labs for testing or "flip" them for profit. even a $50 re-homing fee is profit when you get the dog for free.(or cat for that matter)...in this economy that sadly is the reality. happens all too often.
ive worked with all sorts of "bad" dogs. it is lack of knowledge, training and responsibility of the owner. if you cant devote 20 mins a day minimum of walking with your dog and controling it while doing so (no barking no lunging, no growling, no PULLING you, no sniffing, no anything really without you telling them its ok.). dogs neeeeeed to walk. fish is meant to swim. birds are meant to fly, dogs are meant to WALK!!! once you are good at waling them(and it could take time to get them walking well on a leash) then move that into the house (no garbage, no chewing, no whinning, no begging, NO BITING, etc.)...then playtime just for fun...of course with rules there too (that is MY toy and i let you play with it, no biting,etc.)...also common sense!!! (dont leave kids unattended with a dog until the child know the "rules"....could be 5 years old, could be 10. watch them interact with the dogs and teach them what is appropriate play and what is not. i mean, weve all seen two three-year-olds start beating each other becasue one kid didnt know enough not to ...or pinch back, etc.)...or the dog could be chewing a shoe. well dont just take it away, make them ignore it. leave it there and tell them NO when they go for it.
big breeds are more responsibility because as someone already pointed out, they simply are more powerful. and are capeable of more damage. ive seem many more agressive little dogs than larger breeds, simply because the owner doesnt address the bad habits. they simply pick them up and remove them FROM the temptation. whether thats eating things, barking or biting. they are treated like toys and babied a lot of times because the owner doesnt understand the dogs needs.
i rant, but pits NEED and deserve a voice...media is driving a great dog into extinction.
cheers

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

My neightbours opposite our house used to have an absolute massive bull mastiff and when their family visited they also brought a bull mastiff...HUGE dogs but they always seemed nice.

A pitbull also attacked and killed my neighbours dog; my neighbour has learning difficulties and was walking her dog (like she does about 100 times a day) and the dog just ran out and attacked and killed her dog - he was a westie - I don't like westies but he was a nice westie.

there is no reason for any dog to be running lose. i dont care what breed or how friendly...for their OWN safety. there are cars and aggressive dogs (even ones on a leash that they could run up to- its happened to me THREE TIMES with my Pitbull, but the offleash dog was the agressive one-charged and got into it without so much as a sniff...one sadly was another pit, another a lab, and a chow...and guess who got beat up everytime!!!???...my dog. laid out flat and got ripped up good. so it is unfair to say it is 'in the pit breed to fight and kill'...it is also increasingly common for dogs to be STOLEN and resold for profit. sad but TRUE! look in craigslist and want ads in the paper. there are currently three posts on CL near me right now where owners' dogs were taken from the yard or CAR!!! a loose-running dog would be an easier target. then the thiefs wither sell them to labs for testing or "flip" them for profit. even a $50 re-homing fee is profit when you get the dog for free.(or cat for that matter)...in this economy that sadly is the reality. happens all too often.
ive worked with all sorts of "bad" dogs. it is lack of knowledge, training and responsibility of the owner. if you cant devote 20 mins a day minimum of walking with your dog and controling it while doing so (no barking no lunging, no growling, no PULLING you, no sniffing, no anything really without you telling them its ok.). dogs neeeeeed to walk. fish is meant to swim. birds are meant to fly, dogs are meant to WALK!!! once you are good at waling them(and it could take time to get them walking well on a leash) then move that into the house (no garbage, no chewing, no whinning, no begging, NO BITING, etc.)...then playtime just for fun...of course with rules there too (that is MY toy and i let you play with it, no biting,etc.)...also common sense!!! (dont leave kids unattended with a dog until the child know the "rules"....could be 5 years old, could be 10. watch them interact with the dogs and teach them what is appropriate play and what is not. i mean, weve all seen two three-year-olds start beating each other becasue one kid didnt know enough not to ...or pinch back, etc.)...or the dog could be chewing a shoe. well dont just take it away, make them ignore it. leave it there and tell them NO when they go for it.
big breeds are more responsibility because as someone already pointed out, they simply are more powerful. and are capeable of more damage. ive seem many more agressive little dogs than larger breeds, simply because the owner doesnt address the bad habits. they simply pick them up and remove them FROM the temptation. whether thats eating things, barking or biting. they are treated like toys and babied a lot of times because the owner doesnt understand the dogs needs.
i rant, but pits NEED and deserve a voice...media is driving a great dog into extinction.
cheers

All of my neighbours dogs are secured away. When I was little my poor little dog got attacked by a dog that wasn't secured GRRR.

 

[kelly528]

bigger dogs are more powerful and do more damage so they are labeled as dangerous. ANY dog can bite. so dont leave the kids unattended with them...ever...PERIOD!
just a small rant

I was in charge (voluntary) of the SPCA in a little village for 13 years. One day, a guy moved into our village with pitbulls.....

My phone never stopped ringing...."do you know, that someone just moved in with PITBULLS... and what are you (as the SPCA) going to do about it

I just replied.... "do you know we have Maltese poodles and Fox terriers in town"???...

The only reason why these dogs are classified, is because when they bite, (only when provoked) it is serious....

We were however very cautious of homing a pitbull from our kennels.... if not to the right owner, these dogs can be a threat.

So true. Our pomeranian is a sweet guy but gets snarly when you try to take him off somebody's lap. If the was a pittbull (or any similar breed of dog) then I would probably wet my pants! I have to agree that children should always be supervised with a more assertive breed (large or toy). Seriously, you hear stories every day... Ohh--- he was such a sweet dog.... never hurt anyone for 23 years until he ripped little Johnny's Face off... No matter what the breed, it seems like it always boils down to children unintentionally provoking a dog into snapping while their parents aren't watching.

Also, I understand that pitbulls are an extremely powerful dog with lots of energy. There is a reason why their talent lies in fighting and pulling. IMO, few people can give these dogs the exercise they need in order to stay away from destructive behavior.

 

[loraxchick]

bigger dogs are more powerful and do more damage so they are labeled as dangerous. ANY dog can bite. so dont leave the kids unattended with them...ever...PERIOD!
just a small rant

I was in charge (voluntary) of the SPCA in a little village for 13 years. One day, a guy moved into our village with pitbulls.....

My phone never stopped ringing...."do you know, that someone just moved in with PITBULLS... and what are you (as the SPCA) going to do about it

I just replied.... "do you know we have Maltese poodles and Fox terriers in town"???...

The only reason why these dogs are classified, is because when they bite, (only when provoked) it is serious....

We were however very cautious of homing a pitbull from our kennels.... if not to the right owner, these dogs can be a threat.

So true. Our pomeranian is a sweet guy but gets snarly when you try to take him off somebody's lap. If the was a pittbull (or any similar breed of dog) then I would probably wet my pants! I have to agree that children should always be supervised with a more assertive breed (large or toy). Seriously, you hear stories every day... Ohh--- he was such a sweet dog.... never hurt anyone for 23 years until he ripped little Johnny's Face off... No matter what the breed, it seems like it always boils down to children unintentionally provoking a dog into snapping while their parents aren't watching.

Also, I understand that pitbulls are an extremely powerful dog with lots of energy. There is a reason why their talent lies in fighting and pulling. IMO, few people can give these dogs the exercise they need in order to stay away from destructive behavior.

^^
its not that few people can, few people DO! And thats the problem. half an hour a day,until the dog is panting hard, is hardly too much trouble to take your dog for a walk. and i bet the owners could use the exercise anyway!
cheers

 

[Truck]

I love these dogs, theyre so well behaved when bought up properly! 2 years ago i was walking back from school and there was a dog standing on the pavement, ive always been wary of dogs, and it started barking at, obviously i felt nervous, so i tucked my arms folded above my waist and kept my hands tucked away, the dog then jumped up and took a chunk of flesh out of my arm, thats when i lost all trust in dogs, i couldnt walk on the same side of the pavement because of what happened, i had to have loads of tests done for rabies, loads of jabs etc. slowly i regained my confidence, when my auntie got a pitbull, as soon as i heard this i though "oh ****** i cant go round there!" it got to christmas and i was invited there and i was forced into going, i went inside and sat down, to my surprise the dog ran in and jumped onto my lap, i was scared crapless at the time, but then i saw his tail wagging so obviously he was looking for attetnion or was happy, so i stroked his back, i quickly gained confidence and learned that the way a dog behaves is nothing to do with the dog, but more the owner.


Please watch your language. Profanity is not allowed on TFF.

 

[JenCliBee]

I'm sorry but the people that are saying a well exercised dog is less likely to snap is nonsense, the same as the people that are stating that a dog only reacts to how the owner treats them. Right ive known various dogs and owners that have been brought up in a more loving home than your kids (that is not an insult to anybody) yet some of the dogs even i would be wary about been round never mind having my children round. A dog weather well exercised or extremely well looked after can snap, for instance ive known at least 2 dogs that have been cared for like you wouldn't believe and exercised 2-3 times a day, then on a hot summers day they had gotten very warm and the 'OWNER' went to stroke them, dog turned round and sunk there teeth straight into there arm. How would you explain this situation?, im guessing just unfortunate yes?, well tell that to the parent of the dogs that have attacked there children/family members without provoke from a dog that in a million years they thought would never harm a fly, never mind a child/adult.

Moral really is any dog has the capacity to attack/bite/hurt however you want to put it, so saying that a dog only reacts to how a owner treats is complete and utter rubbish im afraid.

I know my dog wouldn't harm my son or anybody else to that matter yet i still make sure im there with him all the time even though my dog is soft as a kitten, precaution for a potential danger is always the best method, automatically assuming no matter how soft 'YOU' think a dog is, is just asking for trouble.

Edited because i just wanted to add, yes these dogs get a very harsh time for there behaviour and probably very undeserved. but you also have to realise that not every pitbull that has attacked has been mistreated nor not had the best of homes it could of possibly had.

Please watch your language. Posting in a way to bypass our swear filter is just as bad.

 

[kj23502]

I also like bully breeds for the intimidation factor they possess. Now you have 3 houses all have doors unlocked w/no one home. One house no dog/pet, 2nd house a Pomeranian, 3rd house a Rottie or Mastiff.

Which one do you think the burglar will enter?

I like the secure feeling a larger bully dog brings. Even though my hubbies half a dozen guns and ammo will do a LOT more damage than a dog. Don't say they won't. Have you seen the spray of shotguns?

 

[Ben M]

hi, i've had Rotties and a Doberman since i was only about 5 and my little sister was 3. they are the most gentle dogs in the world with kids. they know not to be rough with them, and never knock my sister, or older people over. but with stronger people they no that they can be more playful. i'm nearly 14 they play more rough and sometimes (Kirby) runs into me but he knows no it doesn't hurt me.

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[DarkEntity]

I always cringe when i see kids with Pitbulls and the like....its a mauling waiting to happen imo...but thats my personal opinion

 

[Floyds mum]

I cringe when I see these dogs with Children, I don't know why. I know the dog is only as bad as its owner, but any big muscle kind of dog (You know the types Rotweiler etc) that are known for being a bit random now and then, I wouldn't put near any children. I'm not looking down on you, or saying your doing anything wrong because of this, its just opinion. The only dog I would ever get if I had a baby would be a labradoor.

But labradors still attack unprovocked, they shove their way past and can knock people over.
Ive always grown up with large powerful breeds like working rottwiellers, newfoundlands, mastiffs, greatdanes etc and my friends labrador and my grans small terriers have hurt me alot more than the larger breeds.

We were walking our small lurcher puppy and my greyhound and we passed some small terriers and a jack russel and they went for our dogs completely unprovocked, my sisters labrador is temperamental.

It is not fair to "label" a breed dangerous cos of the minority, in me personal experience none of the rotwiellers ive known have been temperamental or "dangerous" i mean a loaded gun in the wrong hands is LETHAL just like a dog but also in the right hands is perfectly safe again like dogs.

Ive never had anything to do with the said dogs but just cos of what the media says im not going to persecute the breed untill ive come across them.
The media twists stories to sell, any dog that attacks is immediately labelled as a pit bull or pit bull type cos thats what sells the story whereas alot of the time its "typical family breeds"
Loads of the breeds we have nowadays were bred to kill something: sharpei's were a fighting dog, jack russels kill rats, greyhounds were bred to kill rabbits etc etc the typically "agressive" breeds like rotwiellers were bred to herd cattle and later guard, american pit bull terriers were ORIGINALLY bred to again herd cattle, dogo argentino's were bred to hunt etc

The us work APBTs and have "famous" APBTs e.g. popsicle - narcotics detecion dog, St stubby - a war hero etc this breed doesnt take too much energy to research this breed.

Ok rant over