Why I don't deworm new arrivals

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I've seen a bit of discussion lately about routine deworming of newly bought fish that don't show signs of disease. I really have to question the practice.

I assume all my fish have gutworms. I keep a lot of wild caught fish, and parasite host relationships are how the world goes round. I don't worry unless I see symptoms of them doing harm, or unless they are the dreaded Camallanus nematodes. The latter tends to be a fishfarm problem I avoid with keeping wild caught and breeder bought fish.

There is an intriguing direction being explored in the field of human evolutionary medicine that makes me think. The theory is that many of our autoimmune diseases, like Crohn's are a response to our lack of parasites. The systems that evolved to deal with our parasites have no one to battle, and turn on us. It's being studied, and is an enormously complex question to explore, but it makes sense to me as a general principle.

If we attack what may be a normal part of the gut flora and fauna of our fish as a matter of routine, could we be damaging them? It goes with what should be our fundamental principles of keeping healthy fish. Don't treat unless you know what you're treating for, and don't use remedies or meds you haven't researched as to whether they even work. Focus on the aquarium environment to maintain health. Recognize our deep ignorance about the complexity of fish, and only try to do the little you can figure out based on fish veterinary studies...

It's simply a thought, and a way of doing things that most of us fall into anyway through not having easy access to dewormers, or not even thinking about it.
 
Most wild fishes don't have intestinal worms, unlike the stuff coming out of Asian fish farms. If people get common livebearers from fish farms, they should in my opinion, deworm those fish before adding them to an established tank. The odds of those fish having intestinal worms and gill flukes are close to 100% so deworming them in quarantine can save a lot of problems later.

Having a few worms in your intestine isn't a big deal but when your digestive tract is full of worms, it's a problem. They suck the blood out of their host and do nothing in return. Some species of worm might boost the immune system or reduce inflammation but most don't and a gut full of worms from an Asian fish farm certainly won't.

If you get healthy fish from a breeder or friend and they haven't had any fish with worms, then you probably don't need to deworm them, but fish do a lot better when they are free of parasites. They breed more readily, produce more offspring and live longer.
 
Turnover.

Camallanus nematodes hit like trucks when they arrived, killing fish fast. Now, they've adapted to farm life, and they have slowed down. They kill, but after a slower build up. As long as they are sold before the critical mass has been reached, the profit's the same and they don't have to spend on meds.

I disagree with Colin on wild fish - I think it's impossible to live in the wild without parasites. Noxious levels of parasites are a different question. I think I've treated wild fish once or twice, when they looked great but couldn't breed. A simple dose of prazi worked. But that was in response to an observation.
 
How do you know if you're buying from an Asian fish farm? Is that pretty much all pet store fish?
99.9% of fish sold at pet shops come from fish farms, and about 90% come from fish farms in Indonesia and some other areas around there.
 
Most store owners or managers will tell you, because they tend to have favourite regions to buy from. My lfs directly advertises that he buys Singapore fish. I buy almost all my dry good from him...

Chains won't handle wilds because they cost a little more, and for an interesting reason. If I put even one healthy farmed fish into a tank with wilds, the wilds are doomed. They are hit with a wave of new to them pathogens, and they die.
 

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