What To Put With An Agressive Oscar

[Gatorbait]

I dunno I guess I'm in the minority here but imo you're stuffed to the max in a 92g with a 10" Oscar and 2 more fish that are 6" and 8". I'd say that a single Oscar should have 75g minimum. Then you add the 1 chocolate albino common plec - 8" and 1 common syno - 6" plus at least 6 SD's, overstocked imo.

If the Oscar is aggressive like you say, he will only get worse with more fish involved.

Not trying to start anything but jmo.

 

[cheesy feet]

SD's don't need to be kept in groups of 6 or more,although it looks better.They can happily live with 2 or more...I had a pair which were atleast 10 years old and they were fine .Until one just died

 

[fry_lover]

LOL can i ask a totally pointless question in relation to the thread? allow me to do this, i have an urge.....

Miss Wiggle

why quote your tank as "US gallons" if you live in Leeds? just interested

 

[t1tanrush]

You just need to try different things. People keep all kinds of things with oscars, from bluegills to servs. Really just depeneds.. Try it out with any large cichlid such as;
JD, Green terror, red terror, another O, native sunfish, serv, jag, silver dollars, any fish that gets around 6" and is active is fair game as far as I see it..

 

[SamUK]

SD's don't need to be kept in groups of 6 or more,although it looks better.They can happily live with 2 or more...I had a pair which were atleast 10 years old and they were fine .Until one just died

no fish NEEDS to be in a group.

but to make them happy and more comfortable we try to stick as close to there natural environment as possible so fish that school/shoal, shud be in groups.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

I dunno I guess I'm in the minority here but imo you're stuffed to the max in a 92g with a 10" Oscar and 2 more fish that are 6" and 8". I'd say that a single Oscar should have 75g minimum. Then you add the 1 chocolate albino common plec - 8" and 1 common syno - 6" plus at least 6 SD's, overstocked imo.

If the Oscar is aggressive like you say, he will only get worse with more fish involved.

Not trying to start anything but jmo.

no offence taken don't worry, I am aware the tanks pretty full, i've asked for lots of different opinions on weather people think there is room for anything else. opinion seems to be divided, the majority say there's a bit of room although it's still a reasonable percentage who say there isn't. I'm not fully convinced myself either way!!

It is very overfiltered though, we've 3 externals and 2 internals on it and we're looking to upgrade the externals to one of the really big eheim's in the summer so bioload shouldn't be a problem.

and spot and al stay round the bottom of the tank whereas Oscar's only near the bottom of the tank if he's sulking. So they don't get in each others swimming space.

anyway like i said i'm not fully decided about even putting anythiing in, just weighing up some options.

LOL can i ask a totally pointless question in relation to the thread? allow me to do this, i have an urge.....

Miss Wiggle

why quote your tank as "US gallons" if you live in Leeds? just interested

because the standard " per gallon rule, and the watts per gallon rules work on US Gallons, so most people work on them so that's what I list my tanks as.

 

[demonmagus]

also it makes the tank seem bigger

 

[cheesy feet]

SD's don't need to be kept in groups of 6 or more,although it looks better.They can happily live with 2 or more...I had a pair which were atleast 10 years old and they were fine .Until one just died

no fish NEEDS to be in a group.

but to make them happy and more comfortable we try to stick as close to there natural environment as possible so fish that school/shoal, shud be in groups.

No,mine were fine.Your not right about everything.Never skittish or scared.What the hell is 'we' ,this isn't some fish club you meet up with people it's a forum.Just stop trying to disagree with me on every post...

 

[Gatorbait]

I dunno I guess I'm in the minority here but imo you're stuffed to the max in a 92g with a 10" Oscar and 2 more fish that are 6" and 8". I'd say that a single Oscar should have 75g minimum. Then you add the 1 chocolate albino common plec - 8" and 1 common syno - 6" plus at least 6 SD's, overstocked imo.

If the Oscar is aggressive like you say, he will only get worse with more fish involved.

Not trying to start anything but jmo.

no offence taken don't worry, I am aware the tanks pretty full, i've asked for lots of different opinions on weather people think there is room for anything else. opinion seems to be divided, the majority say there's a bit of room although it's still a reasonable percentage who say there isn't. I'm not fully convinced myself either way!!

It is very overfiltered though, we've 3 externals and 2 internals on it and we're looking to upgrade the externals to one of the really big eheim's in the summer so bioload shouldn't be a problem.

and spot and al stay round the bottom of the tank whereas Oscar's only near the bottom of the tank if he's sulking. So they don't get in each others swimming space.

anyway like i said i'm not fully decided about even putting anythiing in, just weighing up some options.

LOL can i ask a totally pointless question in relation to the thread? allow me to do this, i have an urge.....

Miss Wiggle

why quote your tank as "US gallons" if you live in Leeds? just interested

because the standard " per gallon rule, and the watts per gallon rules work on US Gallons, so most people work on them so that's what I list my tanks as.

Thank you very much for that Miss Wiggle.

I was hoping you wouldn't be offended. Like I said, I'm the only one who thinks that so take my opinion for what it's worth, just a minority thought among others trying to help all of us out from time to time. I, in no way, consider myself an expert and endall to every thread so I'm glad you took it as just looking out for you in good faith and I wouldn't be bothered at all if you went with the majority here.


BTW, I'm certainly glad when I see gallons instead because that's all I know.

 

[LisaLQ]

Cheesy feet - SDs do need to be in groups, they are shoaling fish like tetras, and are also very nervy - so prefer safety in numbers, especially if in with cichlids IME. Having kept 6 or 7 of them (now in Sams tank lol) in with my oscar and vieja, I think they may have even preferred a larger group than that - as they were easily scared.

I understand your two may have seemed perfectly happy, but if you didn't have yours in a group you could never say you knew they were at their happiest/feeling safest (I'm sure there's a better word for that lol) adn that years of fish keeping research was wrong just because your two were ok.

I dont understand the latest trend on the boards to disagree with years of experience and research - if 99% of the experts say that they are shoaling fish and need to be in large groups, then why argue about it just based on your opinion? Why not say "Yes ok they do prefer it, but mine were ok in a group of two so it's not the end of the world" rather than "You're wrong, you're always wrong, you've got it in for me and who the hell are these experts anyway!". If you're so sure, why so defensive? Why not just agree to disagree, instead of making 99% of the fish keeping world out to be wrong to suit your needs?

It's just advice, you dont have to take it. It's not someone picking on you specifically just because they're handing out the correct advice to someone else.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

I dunno I guess I'm in the minority here but imo you're stuffed to the max in a 92g with a 10" Oscar and 2 more fish that are 6" and 8". I'd say that a single Oscar should have 75g minimum. Then you add the 1 chocolate albino common plec - 8" and 1 common syno - 6" plus at least 6 SD's, overstocked imo.

If the Oscar is aggressive like you say, he will only get worse with more fish involved.

Not trying to start anything but jmo.

no offence taken don't worry, I am aware the tanks pretty full, i've asked for lots of different opinions on weather people think there is room for anything else. opinion seems to be divided, the majority say there's a bit of room although it's still a reasonable percentage who say there isn't. I'm not fully convinced myself either way!!

It is very overfiltered though, we've 3 externals and 2 internals on it and we're looking to upgrade the externals to one of the really big eheim's in the summer so bioload shouldn't be a problem.

and spot and al stay round the bottom of the tank whereas Oscar's only near the bottom of the tank if he's sulking. So they don't get in each others swimming space.

anyway like i said i'm not fully decided about even putting anythiing in, just weighing up some options.

LOL can i ask a totally pointless question in relation to the thread? allow me to do this, i have an urge.....

Miss Wiggle

why quote your tank as "US gallons" if you live in Leeds? just interested

because the standard " per gallon rule, and the watts per gallon rules work on US Gallons, so most people work on them so that's what I list my tanks as.

Thank you very much for that Miss Wiggle.

I was hoping you wouldn't be offended. Like I said, I'm the only one who thinks that so take my opinion for what it's worth, just a minority thought among others trying to help all of us out from time to time. I, in no way, consider myself an expert and endall to every thread so I'm glad you took it as just looking out for you in good faith and I wouldn't be bothered at all if you went with the majority here.


BTW, I'm certainly glad when I see gallons instead because that's all I know.

hey just cos your the only person who'se said something amongst loads of people who've said otherwise doesn't make you wrong! I take all comments on board, it's a big descision to make and I take the welfare of my fish very seriously!!

 

[SamUK]

Cheesy feet - SDs do need to be in groups, they are shoaling fish like tetras, and are also very nervy - so prefer safety in numbers, especially if in with cichlids IME. Having kept 6 or 7 of them (now in Sams tank lol) in with my oscar and vieja, I think they may have even preferred a larger group than that - as they were easily scared.

I understand your two may have seemed perfectly happy, but if you didn't have yours in a group you could never say you knew they were at their happiest/feeling safest (I'm sure there's a better word for that lol) adn that years of fish keeping research was wrong just because your two were ok.

I dont understand the latest trend on the boards to disagree with years of experience and research - if 99% of the experts say that they are shoaling fish and need to be in large groups, then why argue about it just based on your opinion? Why not say "Yes ok they do prefer it, but mine were ok in a group of two so it's not the end of the world" rather than "You're wrong, you're always wrong, you've got it in for me and who the hell are these experts anyway!". If you're so sure, why so defensive? Why not just agree to disagree, instead of making 99% of the fish keeping world out to be wrong to suit your needs?

It's just advice, you dont have to take it. It's not someone picking on you specifically just because they're handing out the correct advice to someone else.

thanx lisa, saved me a job!

and cheesey i have never claimed to kno everything but with a little thing called research and experience then i can comment on these things.

dnt really need to say that tho, lisa put it alot better.

EDIT - sorry for disturbing the thread alice.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

EDIT - sorry for disturbing the thread alice.

ha ha no worries, i like a good rucus

 

[Bullrock74]

Silver dollars are aquatic lawn mowers, put them in a planted tank and its like an all you can eat salad buffet for them.

I was going to point this out as well. If you put six silver dollars in that tank, you'll either have no plants or very ragged-looking ones. I have a 95 US gallon corner tank, and originally had an oscar in it. But, when the oscar grew to about 10"-11" the tank really seemed too small for it. I moved it to an 8x3x2 tank, so it would have some space.

I would wait until you move and get the 6x2x2 to try more tankmates for your oscar. Good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[Miss Wiggle]

thanks for your comments, waiting is definately a possibility!!

i've no free cash to get much for the tank for a while anyway so i'll just take my time to monitor the situation and make my descisions.