What Happened To Jennybugs?

[BigC]

This matter is currently being discussed in the Mod forum,
If you will allow us some time to discuss and review the matter (given the mods geographical time-zones)
I'm sure a full explanation of this unfortunate situation will be offered.
Regards
C

 

[xxBarneyxx]

This matter is currently being discussed in the Mod forum,
If you will allow us some time to discuss and review the matter (given the mods geographical time-zones)
I'm sure a full explanation of this unfortunate situation will be offered.
Regards
C

Thanks mate When you coming back over to the salty side again?

 

[BigC]

I'm always lurking Barney, If you need to ask or offer advice then you know how to find me.
I have gone back to my first love of fishkeeping,(Killifish) something I've done since the Seventies and something I feel comfortable with.
The Marine adventure was fantastic for me as I learned so much and was mentored by Skifletch and Stealhealr who I owe a lot to for that.
I remember when you first joined in and its good to see you are still with us. I know the Salty section needs an injection of traffic but it tends to come in phases, stick around and I'm sure there will be more novices looking for advice....that's where members like you come in with the experience you have gained here and elsewhere to guide those folks
Regards
C

 

[Nick16]

Has truck been banned as well? I haven't seen him on in a while.

im fairly sure he has... both his accounts are suspisiously 'offline' so to speak... and he hasnt chatted to me in a while....


Viva la Free Speach...

 

[Jenste]

TO THE MODS...because it is somewhat relevant to this topic

I have a question - just because I do not want to risk being banned. Not many members on here are familiar with african clawed frogs. Many more are familiar with african DWARF frogs because they can easily be integrated into an aquarium with fish, but as some of you know, african CLAWED frogs are voracious fish eaters and therefor require a species only tank. for this reason, very few of the members on here are familiar with their care.

a member asked me to recommend a frog ONLY site that has a high number of members with experience with these species in particular.
for sending a link in ONE PM (which I take to mean PRIVATE message - as in personal so the contents should not be open to review)....could I be banned? If it is considered an offense, will I at least get a warning before banishment?

 

[Ace Of Spades]

TO THE MODS...because it is somewhat relevant to this topic

I have a question - just because I do not want to risk being banned. Not many members on here are familiar with african clawed frogs. Many more are familiar with african DWARF frogs because they can easily be integrated into an aquarium with fish, but as some of you know, african CLAWED frogs are voracious fish eaters and therefor require a species only tank. for this reason, very few of the members on here are familiar with their care.

a member asked me to recommend a frog ONLY site that has a high number of members with experience with these species in particular.
for sending a link in ONE PM (which I take to mean PRIVATE message - as in personal so the contents should not be open to review)....could I be banned? If it is considered an offense, will I at least get a warning before banishment?

No you couldn't as it is not something this site has a dedicated community or section for, so it is perfectly plausible.

 

[Night61]

this is the fact of real life as well. if you brake the rules you get put in jail, same here when you joined almost everyone clicked an i agree to abide by the rules of the forums button. if you violate those rules you get suspended or worse banned.
look I concidered Truck a friend as well, but i also know he pushed the boundries of what was acceptable and what wasn't acceptable here. if he pushed to far then he got banned, sad for the ones he knew and made freinds with. ultimantly though it is the responciblity of the mods to keep the forums at a place that anyone can come and voice there opinions and knowladge in a safe way.

i applad the mods for there hard work they do, and for making the some times unpopular choice to keep the forums the kind of place we can come back to.

 

[Ace Of Spades]

this is the fact of real life as well. if you brake the rules you get put in jail, same here when you joined almost everyone clicked an i agree to abide by the rules of the forums button. if you violate those rules you get suspended or worse banned.

You mean if you break the rules and you get caught, lets not discourage the next generation of criminals into a promising career path .

 

[JenCliBee]

I've never read them in all these years but just have. They all make sense to be honest

meh, not really mate when the enforcement of them rules leads to us losing at least 6 of our long standing members who where highly active in the marine section (the marine section on this forum is pretty much dead now compared to how it was 8 months ago).

Having only got one side of the story (from Jen) apparently the only thing she did that was even remotely breaking the rules was to PM a link to some bi-orb forums to other members. Now if this is the reason she was banned then its bloody ridiculous. For one these forums are SPECIALIST and as another recent thread on here states that specialist forums are ok to post but its a mod decision if the links get left in or removed (generally specialist links get left in). Plus it was via PM and she didn't (again from her side of the story) get any warnings and has been ignored by the mods she has emailed (she didnt name any names).

Not just the marine section, betta section with the likes of netty and crew, pleco section with the likes of JenCliBee, planted section with the likes of truck, oddball section with the likes of dave-oddballs.


All that i can work out was neither previously warned nor banned for any severe justification....

One of the above named ban message........

Due to your creating a topic purely designed for trolling, flaming members, moderators and administrators, as well as posting in numerous topics doing the same the moderating team has decided to permanently suspend your account. This was a unanimous decision made by seven moderators and one administrator. In the past we have had to edit numerous topics due to your posting habits, which violate forum rules. You have been cut plenty of slack in the past, that has now come to an end with this ban.

Taken from this thread .... HERE!!!

Considering the people that starting the flaming in that thread are still here and still considered 'respected'... in there obvious clique (otherwise they to would have been banned). Some mods actually posted in the thread, leaving the discussion to continue. The OP got banned for no apparent reason, the message given to ban him was neither true, justified or warranted!!!.

Oh btw the member in question was banned temporarily till the year 2036 lol.

So basically it isn't just now members have been banned for seemingly no reason, it has been going on for quite a while without these members been prior warned!!!

 

[Tolak]

While we do have a policy of not discussing the banned members or reasons for these member’s bans rest assured that any members who receive posting restrictions are contacted concerning this on a timely basis, and records of these communications are kept.

Just as members have rules to follow concerning posting on TFF, the Moderating Team has rules to follow when dealing with the various infractions that may occur. Often these infractions are not an easy black & white situation, and as mentioned these gray areas often go into lengthy discussions among the mods. We don’t like to have to hand out posting restrictions, and actually wish we never had to, but we are entrusted by the owner of this forum to do what is right for it as a whole.

While discussing any given situation we often discuss our own rules, which certainly doesn’t shorten the discussion. As situations arise we discuss, as well as vote on the situation, and any modifications to the rules we follow. The world is ever changing; we realize the need to change with it. We do take topics such as these into account, and the discussion of these sorts of topics may or may not end up in some modification of the rules we follow.

Taking all of this into account, any permanent ban is a long and hard thought decision. We have enacted a set of checks and balances to assure this, as well as any other posting restrictions are dealt with in a manner that is as fair and impartial as possible.

Jenste; your honesty is very much appreciated. On occasion we do allow links to other specialized forums. In our eyes a specialized forum is one that deals with one species or closely related species, and covers information that is either never covered here, or never covered in the scope and depth that is needed to assist the member here with their given situation.

This is the sort of information that should be shared as it is a benefit to the aquarist with their given situation. We have the best of hope in those situations that the aquarist will learn some in depth information about the species that is not covered here, then come back and share that information if need be.

Bottom line; feel free to pm the link to the African Clawed Frog site. To the person receiving the pm, hopefully you will learn a lot, come back here, and share the information you learned through research & hands on experience.

As BigC stated, this topic itself is under discussion in the mod’s section, I hope this bit of information I posted helps to keep members informed on some of the things we do, and why we do them.

 

[simonas]

Dave-Oddballs banned as well!! didn;t know that, who else?

 

[Big_eyes]

Dave-Oddballs banned as well!! didn;t know that, who else?

Pretty much any big popular member with a personality

 

[raptorrex]

Dave-Oddballs banned as well!! didn;t know that, who else?

seems, to me, some members (especially values and long serving members) are in the wrong club. "now this is only my view". seems you need to have the right friends, if you wish to post contrary to some members views.

I've seen discussions quashed, recently, just because they don't line up, with a mods views. seem members banned, given the least excuse, too.

I give a warning, not that those involved give a hoot. this forum is turning, from one of the best, to one of the least useful, forums on fish. as with most coups, those who don't agree, keep their heads down,, or just leave. a few seem to have tried to make their points, and got banned anyway.

now I await the "why don't you leave if things are that bad" comments. my answer is. this is my forum as much as anybody's. i'll leave if i wish. but if i stay around and stick to the rules, i can always make my point to others. I'LL DECIDE, the choice will not be made by others.

lol unless there is something in this, that warrants a ban. I'm running a book, for those interested. lol.

 

[Nick16]

im always going to speak my mind and many of you know that. i like toe-ing the line so to speak. Live life on the edge yeah ooooo risky!!!!


i often disagree with members but i dont just say - 'thats wrong'. i back my statement up with some evidence, be it photographic, written, or personal experiance which i hope other members can learn from.

however, i would like to speak to a mod regarding the state of the planted section....
it seems its me, lljdma06, and Ianho that are left... (seeing how ad has now left us!!...) - i wont forgive you for changing to the salty side!!!!

if we can encourage some of the guys back from uKaps, it will be highly beneficial for some members on here. With no disrespect, (there are some amazing tanks on here) BUT look at some of the scapes being churned out on here, and then contrast that to uKaps....
imagine if those guys were back, posting on here. the amount of people that can learn from those tanks, the way to care for them etc...

The planted side is rapidly growing here in the uk and its worth trying to pull some more (experianced) members in!

 

[xxBarneyxx]

i often disagree with members but i dont just say - 'thats wrong'. i back my statement up with some evidence, be it photographic, written, or personal experiance which i hope other members can learn from.

That is how it should be. If you don't agree with something and you can back your opinion up then you should be able to post it. If your opinion runs contrary to everyone else though you have to be prepared to deal with the come back in a mature and reasoned manner (which is where things unfortunately tend to start breaking down).

I haven't checked the planted site out you mentioned for awhile (haven't had a planted FW tank for almost 4 years now) but the planted section, like the marine section, will unfortunately never be that big on here. Both areas a highly specialist and on a general fish forum there just isn't the traffic or room to get these areas really going well. The situation you mention in the planted forum is similar to the one in the marine forum and I think that's just the way it goes, both areas really needed a dedicated forum with dedicate membership.

All that being said though I still post here on the marine section because 1) I like the people here and 2)The people on here where the ones that got me through the newbie stages of setting up a marine tank and without them I probably couldn't have done it as well as I did. As such I like to try and offer the same helpful advice and support to the new members on here that was given me.

That's where the marine and planted section on here really come into their own. Helping the people that are new in these areas to get started. This only works though if there are more experienced members still here which is why I started this whole thread to begin with.