waiting for the arrivals

[BettaMomma]

Hmm....
is it possible that maybe you didn't wash your hands?
Or the bucket that you used to transfer the water over had some soap residue in it or something?

there must be some simple, yet VERY unfortunate explanation.

 

[GuppyDude]

well i just got a red plakat male from kelly yesterday and he is fine, i acclimated him for 30 minuts and dumped him in. hes was less than happy about the situation and really despises betta bites, but other than that hes very healthy, even blew a bubble nest last night. im thinking it was shock from shipping or there is something in ur water, it doesn't sound like u did anything wrong that would cause the fish to die so quickly, keep an eye on that tank and make sure everything is safe and happy in there.

and one more thing i just thoght of, are ur dividers clear by any chance? i use clear dividers in my tank but i wouldn't put newly shipped fish or ill fish next to anything he would flare at. u userally dont want them to flare or get worked up after a tramatic journy in a card board box throgh the US postal service. were they flareing? that could kill a betta

 

[infant340]

i used transluscent black plexiglass. i used gloves, and i hadnt used the bucket for a while but i rinsed it out with steaming water before i used it...

 

[GuppyDude]

ok, well im really sry man, i wish i knew what the problem was, the only think i can come up with is shock

 

[BettasRFriends]

It seems Infant took extra precautions on everything. BettaMomma is right...there must be some explanation for this terrible event. Think...what are we all missing to mention...

 

[BettaMomma]

If you had any sort of sick fish in that bucket before, rinsing it with hot water won't do the trick.

Did you happen to use it to transport or house sickies before?
But even then, i'm guessing it would take a while for them to have caught whatever it is and then suffered with it for a while... not instantly...

 

[infant340]

the bucket was used to pour out old water from my old spawn. i think guppydude is right on this one. this isnt my first time losing a betta bcuz of shock.

 

[Inchworm]

Hi infant340

I'm so sorry to hear about your new fish.

Did you check the pH of the water in the bag and compare it to your water? If there was a very large difference it could have been the cause of their deaths. As careful as you might have been, the change might have just been too much for them to get used to.

 

[Sorrell]

Inch makes a good point about the ph since the water came from an established tank, have you heard of old tank syndrome? I suppose that wouldn't explain why the girls in the 30 are fine though

What really strikes me though is your description of the fish apon entering the tank

right after i released them they were swimming like mad...then stopped and fell to the bottom

That sounds like some sort of toxicity to me...I know the water came from the 30, but what is the history of the 10gal and the dividers?

Acclimation doesn't sound like even an option at all. While it is very important especially for a fish that has been shipped, I personally have over 20 fish from wuv and in my last batch due to circumstances, I was unable to acclimate two of them at all. They went straight in the tank. Temperature and ph shock- the works. They are fine. Fish from these lines have been so well bred and cared for in the most ideal situations. They are the hardiest bettas you will ever encounter. While we should always do our absolute best, from my experience, I cannot even entertain the theory of any type of acclimation shock.

I apologize if you are truly as lost as the rest of us, but it really seems like maybe you are keeping something We all know you would never intentionally kill fish, but if there is another factor that has been left unsaid it would be beneficial for everyone if we could hear it.

 

[Inchworm]

Inch makes a good point about the ph since the water came from an established tank, have you heard of old tank syndrome? I suppose that wouldn't explain why the girls in the 30 are fine though

I apologize if you are truly as lost as the rest of us, but it really seems like maybe you are keeping something

The pH factor has nothing to do with having old water or new water. There is likely to be a different pH from new tap water in one area to that of any other.

These are fish we are talking about here; they are living creatures. They were also out of everyone's control during the time they were in the hands of a carrier. Who knows what kind of things might have happened to them during this period.

Ease up a little. Sometimes things happen that can never be explained.

 

[infant340]

i dont think i checked the PH...couldnt find my bottle of PH indicator....
and the bucket i used for my last spawn. all of my fry died due to some wierd feeding accident. i fed them then i came down to check on them and they were all dead. there was only about 15 of them so it was easy to count. ya think that could be it???


well on a different note the delta MG male that survived has started a bubblenest

 

[BettasRFriends]

Glad to hear your MG is healthy and happy. Maybe that was the case, the PH and the death of some of the spawns. Did the MG go through the same process as those bettas that died?

 

[wuvmybetta]

I'm glad to hear the MG is well and there are no more losses.

It could have been some crazy fluke,maybe something happened in transit. I know that the three boys and one girl were packed along the outer edge of one side of the box, but that doesn't explain why the other four on the other side were ok. Unless the side with the dead fish was against something too hot or too cold and it weakened them upon arrival. It's really so hard to be certain when you have no idea of every circumstance.

 

[Sorrell]

Inch makes a good point about the ph since the water came from an established tank, have you heard of old tank syndrome? I suppose that wouldn't explain why the girls in the 30 are fine though

I apologize if you are truly as lost as the rest of us, but it really seems like maybe you are keeping something

The pH factor has nothing to do with having old water or new water. There is likely to be a different pH from new tap water in one area to that of any other.

Actually it does and that's why I mentioned old tank syndrome. Are you familiar with the concept? The ph of a established tank can drop down to the 3's or even 2's with lack of water changes, while the current fish are fine. So yes, it does matter if the water is old or new

 

[infant340]

I've never heard of old tank syndrome. the MG male was pretty listless when i first added him to the tank..