Upgraded Tank - All Fish Dying!

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Hi. I am new to this forum and am grieving over a catastrophe.

I have had a 12 gallon tank for 7 years and recently had the bright idea to buy a larger tank.
I researched, I shopped around and I ended up buying a 37 gallon Marineland glass tank with glass canopy that came with:
a biowheel filter that hangs on the edge, a 200 watt heater and a fluorescent light.

The tank is 30"W x 12"D x 24"H.
I spent the weekend assembling the stand, preparing the tank, rinsing the new silk plants, rinsing 80 lbs. of Caribsea sunset gold aquarium sand (took 4 hours), then assembling it, adding water, dechlorinator and 1/2 cup salt (1 Tbsp/5 gallons), and putting everything into place. I made sure that I added water that was the same temperature as my old tank. I tested the pH and found that my existing tank was 7.6 and the new water was more like 7.2, though.

I put in all of the existing decorations and added old ones I had used years ago (rinsed), gathered the old gravel into nylons to place at the bottom temporarily and then put the old filter in running it simultaneously with the new one.
And then I let it run for a day (almost)

When I decided to add the fish, I read a post by someone who said that if you use the old filter system, the tank being new is inconsequential and that the bacteria would be able to handle the bio-load until the new filter became established. So, I caught and bagged them as gently as possible in multiple bags and floated them for 20 mins in the new tank and then released them.
They were fine for a short while.
Then, within a few minutes three of my older and larger platys just died!
I was horrified.
Then I noticed the neons were all in formation (reminds me of geese flying) and they were hovering an inch above the sand. Several were pale, though.
Less than an hour later, two of them were dead.
A few hours later, I thought it was going to be okay because they were starting to swim around. I waited a bit and then fed them a tiny bit of food just to see what would happen.
Most of them eagerly went for the food and I sighed in relief.
Then... less than an hour later my betta was dead on the bottom and several more neons were missing (later found dead) and one of the black skirt tetras was dead.

I came home from work today and saw I was down to 3 neons (out of 8), 3 platys and 1 black skirt tetra.

I tried to be happy about them swimming around and fed them a tiny bit of food again. They were eating and seemed fine.
THEN... my last black skirt tetra was gone. I found her under a plant and upside down. She was still flapping her fins and breathing, but it was labored and the poor fish couldn't seem to upright herself. I know by now she must be dead, too.

I'm watching my remaining 3 neons happily swimming around (which is new - they had remained still or hiding until recently) and I occasionally see a platy move about (the others are hiding between rock decorations and the sand which they hollowed out.)

I realize I messed up big time.... but, I don't understand what I did that was so horrible that it would kill almost everyone!
I am beside myself with guilt. But, I had looked through hundreds of website articles and poured over tons of forum posts in an effort to understand how to move fish from one tank to another and I did what I thought was correct.

Do you have any advice... sorry this is so long. Thank you for being there and for listening. (sigh)


Tank size: 37 gallons
pH: currently it is 7.6
ammonia: between .1 and .25
nitrite: 0
nitrate: ?
kH: ?
gH: ?
tank temp: 73 F

Fish Symptoms: loss of color in some (neons, betta), floating on side or upside down with occasional forward movement but mostly "drifting", shy/hiding under rocks/crevices

Volume and Frequency of water changes: 35 gallons of new water and 2+ gallons of water from previous tank

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: Tetra Aquasafe dechlorinator, sea salt

Tank inhabitants: 1 betta, 6 platys, 8 neon tetras, 3 black skirt tetras (initially)

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): silk plants, sand, decorative glass globs (all were rinsed)

Exposure to chemicals: None that I know of
 
this isn't a critcism, only a question, as I don't know the answer, but why 1/2 cup of salt?
Carole x
 
this isn't a critcism, only a question, as I don't know the answer, but why 1/2 cup of salt?
Carole x

Hi,
It's a half cup of aquarium salt because that's what works for a 37 gallon tank.
I was told by the owners of a fish store that even freshwater fish benefit from a low level of salt in the water.
It isn't enough to be considered "brackish", but the container says to aid in their health (staving off illness and infections) and support general well being in your fish, you should add 1 Tbsp/5 gallons.
37 gallons = 7 Tbsp. salt = just under 1/2 cup

Hope that helps.

BTW, my remaining 6 fish seem to be making it. Everyone has picked up and they are swimming/playing vigorously. And the last black skirt tetra actually didn't die. Last night he was lying flat on the sand, barely alive.
Today, he is upright and even swimming around a bit.

Whew!

No one has an answer for me, though??
 
glad to hear that things are picking up in your tank!Thanks for the explanation about the salt-I have never used it, but funnily enough I read another post about its use in treating some diseases-I have sooo much to learn!
 
Its more than likely you didn't acclimatised them correctly,just putting them in a bag for 20 mins and then releasing them is not proper acclimatisation.

You should have added a little tank water to the bags every 5 mins for half an hour or so to get them use to the 'new' water,just has you would when adding new fish.

Personally i dont use salt in a freshwater aquarium,they dont need it,some fish dont tolerate salt at all.You can give occasional salt baths but thats about it.i'm sure someone more knowledgeable on salt usage will help more :)

Keep an eye on that ammonia,and perform a w/c if necessary.
 
Its more than likely you didn't acclimatised them correctly,just putting them in a bag for 20 mins and then releasing them is not proper acclimatisation.

You should have added a little tank water to the bags every 5 mins for half an hour or so to get them use to the 'new' water,just has you would when adding new fish.

Personally i dont use salt in a freshwater aquarium,they dont need it,some fish dont tolerate salt at all.You can give occasional salt baths but thats about it.i'm sure someone more knowledgeable on salt usage will help more :)

Keep an eye on that ammonia,and perform a w/c if necessary.

I didn't say so, but, I did take the time to add some tank water to the bags, but I guess I should have done it longer. I was afraid they were traumatized by being pursued by a net and then being trapped in the bags.
As for the salt, I know what you mean, but these fish were already living very well in my old tank with the same concentration of salt. I had most of them for almost 3 years.
I tested the ammonia level today and it's only .1 and two days ago it was .25, so I think the bacteria are doing their job now. Everyone who survived now looks really, really good. Swimming happily and seem to enjoy the larger space and lush plants.

(sigh) This fish business is tough. I hate that the learning curve means some of them will die.
Thanks for your help, though.
This is a nice forum!
 

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