Under gravel filters

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20 years ago having an under gravel filter was recommended by experts as the best way to go. However, these days it seems that some experts like them and some just don't.

If anyone has a good argument for either using or not using an under gravel filter I would be interested in your viewpoint.
 
I am not an expert and do not have a good argument either. So sorry for posting. However, I have kept fish for 7 years, and always use a under gravel filter along with other filters and I rarely have a fish die unless it has been from old age. To my knowledge I have never had a disease in any of my tanks, and I have always had good luck with my fish. I have no idea if it has anything to do with my under gravel filter or not, but I don’t think it would hurt having one.
 
Some smaller lightly stocked aquariums can be kept clean with them provided the same gravel vac/water change program was kept up as with any filter. But my thought is a small hanging Over Flow filter will do a better job, be easier to operate, and is no more expensive. UG Filters are not bad, but are a risk I'd rather not take.

Also damage caused to the fish by waste byproducts often wear on a fish over a period of time and never cause disease. This may shorten the lifespan of a fish which appears to have died of old age and can also lower the fish's quality of life. (Note- No pointing fingers as I've also acknowledged they sometimes are efficient.)
 
I would also like to add that I have never just used a undergravel filter, I also use other filtes.

What I recommned donig is using a hang on back filter along with the undergravel.
 
Undergravel (UG) filters did revolutionize in-home aquaria. Before their common use, one had to have a heavily planted tank and stock extremely lightly by today's standard. Effectively, the filtration was performed by the plants. UG filtration allows the entire gravel bed to become the home to all the beneficial bacteria. Lots of surface area, a significant amount of flow, and some mechanical filtration is perfomred as the larger particles get sucked down into the gravel and kept there.

But they can probably be considered obsolete too. You had to gravel vac part of the tank consistently. If too much gunk built up in one point, the beneficial bacteria are blocked from the flow. Bacteria blocked from the flow are in a low oxygen zone, meaning they become anaerobic, and may excrete harmful chemicals. On the other hand, the gravel bed could 'rathole' in that a channel could form where in the water could bypass the gravel bed -- and the ammonia would not be reduced to less dangerous wastes. But, you could not over clean the gravel, either, as you might disturb and/or vacuum up too much beneficial bacteria causing a mini-cycle. So, you have to clean the gravel some, but not too much.

There is nothing inherently wrong with UG filters, I just think that there are better alternatives out there, such as the revolutionary idea of the filters with a bio-wheel. The great thing about the bio-wheel, you know exactly where the beneficial bacteria, so you know where to keep safe from dechlorinated water and medications. So long as you keep your bio-wheel safe, no mini cycle.
 
The UG is a good way to filter smaller particle that will "fall through the cracks" and then be filtered out. If you want to run a UG, I suggest running a hanger in the back of the tank to take care of the larger stuff, a good working "bottom dweller" is good to have around also....
 
I am fairly new to the hobby (a year or so) and I started out using UGFs on three tanks with HOBs as well. The UGFs did their job, of course, but as my interests evolved, I discovered their drawbacks. For one thing, they are not so great for planted tanks. If you want to add a nutrient-rich compound to your substrate (like laterite or duplarite), you need to dig up the whole tank in order to lay foam over the gravel plates--so that the latertire, etc does not get sucked into the UGF and re-circulate back through the water. But even if you do this, you still have the extra surface agitation to deal with if you decide down the road to set up c02 for the plants. If you need to quiet the surface agitation, furthermore, you can't just turn off the UGF--'cause everything under the plates will turn black and toxic.... so basically you have to tear the tank down again to get it out!

So to make a long story short: I started with three tanks with UGFs and had no trouble with any of them, but even so only one now has the UGF left in it (and that's an unplanted that I'm just waiting to pull out!). So...they work... but they don't work well with every setup (i.e., plants, c02) and they are royal buggers to remove once you change your mind! So in the end... why bother when there are so many other great, similarly priced ways to filter your tank? It's a lot easier (for both fishies and fishkeepers) to take a HOB off the tank than to dig up a UGF!
 
I have both a ugf and a hang-on... seems to work pretty well for me - and i've never noticed it to be any dirtier when doing a cleaning than without a ugf
 
I can't stand under gravel filters they always blocked up on me so pulled it out, never looked back since.
 
I use them on three of my tanks beause thats what they came with and it was cheap, But this is a mistake and I wouldn't even suggest it as partial or added biologiccal filtration,

The argument against it is it is dirty and can only effectively filter your tank biologicaly it isn't something to add to your tank because it sucks all the crap under the gravel where it rots createing just a dirty unhegienic enviroment for your fish. The are also a lot of work to maintain unlike popular belief because gravel vacumeing is absolutely esential to maintaining the filtration abilities and even with a good regime the ug will quickly become ineffective.

The argument for it is it provides good biofiltration, but this biological filtration isn't enough and even adding some sort of mechanical filtration will be enifective because all the crap is getting stuck in your tank under the gravel and not free sloating to be picked up by a power filter,

UG's are out dated and in my opinion should never be put in a tank, better even to go with a sponge filter
 

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