Typical Fish Loss Rates?

In addition to the other terrific suggestions from everyone else, you may also consider cutting back on feeding a bit. How much and what type of food do you tend to use per feeding? Feeding once per day is usually sufficient, and some people go with a weekly schedule that includes a day off from feeding (you may be doing that anyways). Also a varied diet usually is helpful.
 
Hi Bartok,

I feel for you. Nothing sucks like losing fish the way you are. :( Hang in there. It's a fine hobby, you just have to get everything going.

If I may humbly submit my advice:

First, this should go without saying, but no more new fish until the deaths and sickness stop, or the tank is empty. You have to get a handle on what's going on, or the tank has to come to an equilibrium point to deal with it. Either way, no more new fish for now.

Second, get a nitrate test kit. It's an invenstment you should make for the long-term if you're committed to keeping fish anyway. You need as complete a picture of your water chemistry as possible. There's definitely something wrong, and it might very well not be nitrate, but a simple test will tell you. When you have problems of this scale, you can't assume anything.

Third, I think you may have had stocking problems, both in overstocking and in combinations of fish. No way can a betta thrive in a tank with tiger barbs long-term. :no: Again, for the moment leave what you have in the tank in there, and once we're sure the problem (whatever it may be) has gone away, then look carefully at where you are stocking-wise and determine what it might be safe to add (if anything). It might not seem that small, but 16 gallons is not a large tank, and that works against you when something is out of whack.

Also, fish don't generally starve to death, although it can happen. It takes a healthy fish quite some time to do so. I'd be willing to bet your fish that quit eating did so because he was sick from whatever killed him. I don't think it was starvation that did him in. Fish that won't eat are almost always unwell. It's typically an indication that something's wrong.

Have you added any medication or treatment to the water other than the Coppersafe (which I'm not familiar with)? Melafix is a good general tonic-type treatment for sick fish which is usually quite safe. I might recommend using some of that in your tank, but it's not always wise to mix medications, so I don't know. Given your current state though, I don't know if it could hurt.

What specific product are you using to dechlorinate your tap water?

Hang in there. The tough times don't last forever, but it really sucks when you're going through one.

pendragon!
 
Thanks for all the suggestions -

Good news for once!! The sick tiger barb looks like it got better. It came out to eat today and is schooling with his buddies instead of hiding under a rock!

I'm going to try cutting back on feeding a little. I'd been feeding them twice a day, which sounds like it might be too much. (Maybe will invest in a better heater that can actually keep the temp stable. :blink: )
 
Hey Pendragon,

Yeah, I never tried to mix the betta in with tiger barbs - got the barbs after the betta died. Also, fish were added in 2-3 week intervals: so its not like I got 16 fish and dumped em in or anything - there was a bit more sanity and research going on here
 
I've been using this "Stress Coat" stuff from aquarium pharmacuticals inc as the water conditioner, and have been trying to match temps as much as possible.

Currently, i feel that temp. fluctuations and possible overfeeding combined with no ability to quarantine new fish are the main culprits here -

Believe me, I'm not planning on getting any more fish until the current ones are all fine for a month or two. After that, I was going to call the tank "full" after getting 2 more green tiger barbs and a bottom feeder catfish of some sort - (is 5 tigers 4 red glass barbs and a catfish too much for my 16 gal? I thought that was a good "full" # without being overstocked)
 
That sounds like a bit much.

Tiger barbs get to 3", so with 5 of them, there's 15 inches right there. Doesn't leave much room for 5 more fish :/
 
Update: Got a Nitrate test kit today. Water quality is good, 10ppm nitrate, o ammonia, 0 nitrite
 
My personal input is that you already have maxed out your tank. You only have a 16 gallon and have had 2 pictus catfish that have died. Pictus catfish can get about a foot and they move continously around the tank; this could lead to stress on the other fish which in turn will get diseased and then die as a result. Go with 2 cory cats after you have checked your water conditions to make sure everything is alright.
 
Thanks for the input re: stocking -

Another issue here - though water conditions are all great as far as test results are concerned, is the fact that the tank smells slightly of mold a bad thing?
 
I'm not familiar with problems around a moldy smell coming from a tank. Tanks do tend to develop an odor over time, but this strikes me as an odor consistent with a closed tank containing fish, algae, plants, bacteria, and fish waste...

I wouldn't be too alarmed at this point :) It's good impetus to keep up with water changes!
 
Well, it looks like things have stabilized. All the inhabitants look healthy and happy again. Even saw some low-key spawing attempts from the red glass barbs.

Thanks for your suggestions everyone.
 
this is just my opinion but maybe you should try a different fish store cos assuming that you bought diseased fish, i wouldnt exactly go back there, but who knows, im just suspicious of that shop cos it wiped out alotta fish from some possible cases of disease,
anyway thats just me,
 

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