Type Of Tetra

[cynic]

We had a slight conversation on another thread about the compatibility of the Bolivian Rams with Cory's (I'm getting possibly 8-10 Panda's) Everything I've read seem to suggest the Bolivians only need a tank with my width and length. Also everybody says that Angel's need a certain height tank and as far as I'm aware mine is one of the tallest I've seen, there of course will be taller but I just haven't seen them so was very puzzled when told my tank wouldn't be good enough... Anyway were all entitled to an opinion but seen as I'm a beginner I just take on board what the experienced folk think.

Going back to the tetra doesn't the Bleeding heart get quite chunky ?? it needs to be something comaptable with Panda's and Bolivians but I'm also conscious about the space in the tank, yes it's tall but not the longest as you know so was thinking smaller tetras, would like something colourful that shoals well for the middle tank space.

Once again though great feedback

So, angels or not.? Columbian tetra are an option, i'm biased but they go to maybe 6-7cm have a metalic blue color and red tails. You would need at least 6 or 7 of them though or they get aggressive. Otherwise they like to float around midwater in the planting stems and will claim a chunk as theirs. But don't really get nasty, fish can swim through its if they hang around they get 'hinted at'.

Oh and don't bother feeding them with flake they ain't interested. Bloodworm, woah its like something from a pirahna film.

 

[Jamie24]

We had a slight conversation on another thread about the compatibility of the Bolivian Rams with Cory's (I'm getting possibly 8-10 Panda's) Everything I've read seem to suggest the Bolivians only need a tank with my width and length. Also everybody says that Angel's need a certain height tank and as far as I'm aware mine is one of the tallest I've seen, there of course will be taller but I just haven't seen them so was very puzzled when told my tank wouldn't be good enough... Anyway were all entitled to an opinion but seen as I'm a beginner I just take on board what the experienced folk think.

Going back to the tetra doesn't the Bleeding heart get quite chunky ?? it needs to be something comaptable with Panda's and Bolivians but I'm also conscious about the space in the tank, yes it's tall but not the longest as you know so was thinking smaller tetras, would like something colourful that shoals well for the middle tank space.

Once again though great feedback

So, angels or not.? Columbian tetra are an option, i'm biased but they go to maybe 6-7cm have a metalic blue color and red tails. You would need at least 6 or 7 of them though or they get aggressive. Otherwise they like to float around midwater in the planting stems and will claim a chunk as theirs. But don't really get nasty, fish can swim through its if they hang around they get 'hinted at'.

Oh and don't bother feeding them with flake they ain't interested. Bloodworm, woah its like something from a pirahna film.

Thanks for that, I'll look into the Columbian Tetra when I get a moment.... It's also a no to the Angels.

 

[minnnt]

At the end of the day the tank is 2ft long, which is simply not big enough! The height is more than acceptable, but 2ft long is cramped for adult angels. If they pair it will be a warzone! If they don't pair it will be a warzone, especially for the less dominant. You're then suggesting a group of chunky tetra's and another pair of cichlids with the rams.

Recipe for disaster imo. I had a breeding pair of angels in my roma 125, alone, and it looked cruel.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

I'm very close to decommissioning my 620T after using it as a grow out tank for various young fish over the past year. Its squat size heavily limits the type of fish that can do well in them long term, while its small surface area for such a tall tank further limits the stocking levels. All that I have in mine now are some Eel Loaches, Rabbit Snails and some plants!

By comparison, I've moved the previous occupants of the 620T and some other youngsters from a ~100l tub into a 48x12x15 tank, that holds pretty much the same volume of water (130l). The longer footprint gives the fish more space to use a turn of speed, helps aerate the water better and provides more tank floor to create lots of natural caves amongst a load of bogwood.

 

[Jamie24]

At the end of the day the tank is 2ft long, which is simply not big enough! The height is more than acceptable, but 2ft long is cramped for adult angels. If they pair it will be a warzone! If they don't pair it will be a warzone, especially for the less dominant. You're then suggesting a group of chunky tetra's and another pair of cichlids with the rams.

Recipe for disaster imo. I had a breeding pair of angels in my roma 125, alone, and it looked cruel.

Point taken and like I say above everyone is entitled to an opinion but also the Angel idea won't be happening, I actually don't like them but the other half was mithering for one... Still looking for these nice colorful tetra's though

 

[minnnt]

Which Tetra's Jamie? CRF's would be too big imo. It's alright Cynic recommending them to you, he has a gret massive tank! lol.

 

[Jamie24]

I'm very close to decommissioning my 620T after using it as a grow out tank for various young fish over the past year. Its squat size heavily limits the type of fish that can do well in them long term, while its small surface area for such a tall tank further limits the stocking levels. All that I have in mine now are some Eel Loaches, Rabbit Snails and some plants!

By comparison, I've moved the previous occupants of the 620T and some other youngsters from a ~100l tub into a 48x12x15 tank, that holds pretty much the same volume of water (130l). The longer footprint gives the fish more space to use a turn of speed, helps aerate the water better and provides more tank floor to create lots of natural caves amongst a load of bogwood.

I understand my tank has it's limits regarding stocking, floor space and numerous other things but for someone who was mad keen on getting back into fish keeping and having very limited space in the house let alone the front room this tank is the biggest I could manage for now until I can convince the other half that we only need one sofa

 

[Jamie24]

Which Tetra's Jamie? CRF's would be too big imo. It's alright Cynic recommending them to you, he has a gret massive tank! lol.

I'm simply looking for colourful, small tetra/rasbora types that will shoal nicely, I know the Bleeding hearts and Columbians are too big, silver tips, Zebra Danios are too active for my tank and the Black skirts are nippy fish that don't always shoal anyway.

I like the Emerald Rasbora and prefer Cardinal to the Neon but there a little predictable in a tank and I prefer something a bit different, would like some choice to decided upon... I've had Harlequins a few years back when I had my first tank and to be honest I'm not keen on them.

 

[minnnt]

Some of the best shoalers are Penguin Tetra's and Rummy Noses. Harlequins are great too.

 

[Jamie24]

Some of the best shoalers are Penguin Tetra's and Rummy Noses. Harlequins are great too.

Never heard of Penguin tetras so will look into them, is it true these Emerald Rasbora only get 1 inch big at adult stage ??

 

[cynic]

The one thing i've noticed with my harlequins and the panda's which are all shoaling fish is that they don't.

They come together when there is a common cause, during a water change they will be in a tight group for example. But if they are fed and secure in their habitat then they will be spread all over the tank.

The columbians DO stay as a group, you don't see them in the open parts of the tank generally. As a rule they are in the stems of the hydrocotyle or just out of it over the slate above some cabomba. With just one or two doing the rounds in the open area, almost like sentries.

That was the main reason for the reccomendation, and yes the tank is epic I have given up explaining why i have small fish. People just don't grasp the idea of fish needing space, they are not sardines in a tin .

 

[minnnt]

The one thing i've noticed with my harlequins and the panda's which are all shoaling fish is that they don't.

They come together when there is a common cause, during a water change they will be in a tight group for example. But if they are fed and secure in their habitat then they will be spread all over the tank.

Thats quite true... they shoal when they feel the need to... Safety in numbers etc.

The columbians DO stay as a group, you don't see them in the open parts of the tank generally. As a rule they are in the stems of the hydrocotyle or just out of it over the slate above some cabomba. With just one or two doing the rounds in the open area, almost like sentries.

That was the main reason for the reccomendation, and yes the tank is epic I have given up explaining why i have small fish. People just don't grasp the idea of fish needing space, they are not sardines in a tin .

Which is what the CRF's would be like in the OP's tank.


Penguins can look a little dull as they're silver with a black stripe that runs to the lower tail fin. Very nice fish and they're true shoalers. Rummies in a group of 8 would also do the same.
I believe the Emeralds are some kind of Micro Rasbora? If so then yes the size will be correct... They're ideally suited to a nano tank rather than one that is a little larger like yours.

Maybe you could look into something like Galaxy Rasbora's?

 

[Jamie24]

The one thing i've noticed with my harlequins and the panda's which are all shoaling fish is that they don't.

They come together when there is a common cause, during a water change they will be in a tight group for example. But if they are fed and secure in their habitat then they will be spread all over the tank.

Thats quite true... they shoal when they feel the need to... Safety in numbers etc.

The columbians DO stay as a group, you don't see them in the open parts of the tank generally. As a rule they are in the stems of the hydrocotyle or just out of it over the slate above some cabomba. With just one or two doing the rounds in the open area, almost like sentries.

That was the main reason for the reccomendation, and yes the tank is epic I have given up explaining why i have small fish. People just don't grasp the idea of fish needing space, they are not sardines in a tin .

Which is what the CRF's would be like in the OP's tank.


Penguins can look a little dull as they're silver with a black stripe that runs to the lower tail fin. Very nice fish and they're true shoalers. Rummies in a group of 8 would also do the same.
I believe the Emeralds are some kind of Micro Rasbora? If so then yes the size will be correct... They're ideally suited to a nano tank rather than one that is a little larger like yours.

Maybe you could look into something like Galaxy Rasbora's?

Like the look of those Rasboras but arn't they another fish that only get 1 inch big at adult stage ??

 

[minnnt]

Galaxy rasboras aren't classed as a micro species... I think. Unsure mate tbh, but they are truly stunning!

 

[moochy13]

ive got bolivians with an angel, and other than the rare occasion when the angel has a quick dash after the rams, they never bother eachother. like 'nobody of the goat', i have a 4ft long, short tank, which gives me plenty of territory for my more territorial fish. even if the bolivians go up the angels end of the tank, they get ignored unless they get really close to him. even then he just scraes them off, no actual damage. i had the same behaviour with GBR's and apistos. maybe my angel is just chilled out. maybe i should call him Lebowski .