Two Silly Betta Questions

[Fishy friend2]

Hmm melafix is a great product to use. Yes i also need to know the tank size. Reccomended fish are
Neon Tetras Groups of 6
Cory Catfish Groups of 5
Bristlenose Catfish 10 Gallons

Probably solo because on your other fourm your tank was 5 gallons i think

No offense if you keep a bristle nose in a 10 gallon, but I don't think that a 5 inch fish belongs in a 10 gallon aquarium maybe it could live in a 20 gallon at the least, I don't think it will be as healthy and as happy as it would be in a 20 gallon where it belongs

And neither betttafix or melafix should be used for a Betta as it can be very harmful for their labyrinth organ, because it contains tea tree oil

 

[Dieses Madchen]

Hmm melafix is a great product to use. Yes i also need to know the tank size. Reccomended fish are
Neon Tetras Groups of 6
Cory Catfish Groups of 5
Bristlenose Catfish 10 Gallons

Probably solo because on your other fourm your tank was 5 gallons i think

No offense if you keep a bristle nose in a 10 gallon, but I don't think that a 5 inch fish belongs in a 10 gallon aquarium maybe it could live in a 20 gallon at the least, I don't think it will be as healthy and as happy as it would be in a 20 gallon where it belongs

And neither betttafix or melafix should be used for a Betta as it can be very harmful for their labyrinth organ, because it contains tea tree oil

It is harmful in small doses which is why they made bettafix. the dosage of tea tree oil is significantly lower and is at a level that is safe for bettas
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?/topic/57172-melafix-vs-bettafix/

Also, no medication is entirely safe for fish. In an overdose, you can potentially kill your entire tank if you do not follow the directions to a tee. Its the same with any medication that we take. Tylenol is a great fever reducer, but in an overdose, you can possibly kill your liver. Its all about taking caution when using the medications. I personally have used Bettafix for any and all fin injuries and it works great. I would not, however use Melefix on my bettas, as the dose of tea oil is significantly higher than that of Bettafix, and I am not so good at math lol

 

[the_lock_man]

Profanity is very subjective!

I would disagree slightly, in that the thing that is subjective is what you find acceptable to say - that particular word is a swear word, whether or not you find it acceptable. I find it acceptable to drive at 35mph in a 30mph limit - doesn't make it legal though.

The majority of swear words have sexual links, and this is no exception.

I understand what it is you are saying, however I stand by my original statement in that it really does depend on where you go, as different areas have definite differences of opinion about exactly what words or terms are socially acceptable. I understand the need to police these things in public areas as well.

Subjectivity is that different words mean slightly different things depending on where you are, and what the subculture you belong to finds acceptable. Having been around the world at least twice, it is a very real thing.

In reference to the sexual nature of swearing, I disagree. To a large degree you are correct, however there is also a strong association with "filth" rather than sexual material. As just as many cultures use implications of "uncleanliness" (literally "dirty" or references to feces or waste) as their profanity.

Personally, and I think I not alone here, never considered that particular word sexual in nature. I always assumed that it referenced something bothersome or annoying, I.e. Something specific that "bugs" you. Which I just never really though of as profane.

Anyway, I didn't consider it a "curse" or swear word, as I never really thought of it as being particularly insulting or degrading, or even "strong language" as I always thought it referenced a minor annoyance. And it sort of surprised me that it was on the verbal no-no list enough to get censored.

I accept that it's outside the rules HERE, but it just surprised me that it would be... It wasn't a case of trying to do 35 in a 30 zone... It as more appropriate to say "I was driving cautiously I just didn't realize the zone was 15 because the road sign simply said "caution"

I'm sure it's time to draw a line under this discussion, especially as it's not directly related to the original post. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't suggesting you were deliberately trying to push the profanity boundaries. All's good!

 

[RobberyinCSharp]

Oh god....

I did add Melafix at the first addition of the fish, because it's recommended to use when first adding fish to reduce the risk of fish diseases. I didn't remove the activated carbon, though! Oh God...what have I done! Is my betta going to be okay!?!?!? He seems fine...how would I know if I damaged the labyrinth...

 

[Dieses Madchen]

I think he should be fine, especially if you have carbon. The carbon probably diminished the medication. I would invest in Bettafix for your bettas though. Its the same stuff in weaker form.

 

[the_lock_man]

I didn't remove the activated carbon, though!

The carbon probably diminished the medication.

I don't wish to worry you, C#, but I think the carbon cartridge is used to get rid of heavy metals - I think that the active ingredient in many medications is a heavy metal of some form or another. Tea tree oil, I'm assuming anyway, isn't a heavy metal. And in any case, if the carbon had been in the filter for more than 3/4 weeks, it would have been useless for heavy metals anyway.

That said, if you only dosed once, I would imagine that if any damage at all had been done, it would be negligible.

 

[Dieses Madchen]

I didn't remove the activated carbon, though!

The carbon probably diminished the medication.

I don't wish to worry you, C#, but I think the carbon cartridge is used to get rid of heavy metals - I think that the active ingredient in many medications is a heavy metal of some form or another. Tea tree oil, I'm assuming anyway, isn't a heavy metal. And in any case, if the carbon had been in the filter for more than 3/4 weeks, it would have been useless for heavy metals anyway.

That said, if you only dosed once, I would imagine that if any damage at all had been done, it would be negligible.

Oh. I thought it was used for removing medications as well (not neccessarily heavy metal based). But I also agree that one dose is not going to do heavy damage, if it does any at all.

 

[the_lock_man]

Please note the italicised "THINK", I am not 100% certain on that - there's a certain degree of extrapolation there.

 

[RobberyinCSharp]

I think he should be fine, especially if you have carbon. The carbon probably diminished the medication. I would invest in Bettafix for your bettas though. Its the same stuff in weaker form.

Duly noted!
Also, as a separate question (sorry...)
I have a Betta in a tank with a built-in under gravel filter. He's not a fan of the strong currents and it's adding to his fin problems. Of course I can't go without filtration...what should I do?

 

[LadyDragon]

How big is the tank?
I don't have much experience with Undergravel filters, I use sponge filters and in my bigger tanks I have penguin biowheels. My boyfriends tank has a hob filter we baffled that seems to work fantastic for his boys.
I've been experimenting with somewhat more "natural" filtration options these days, with fantastic results. I've been experimenting with HOB refugiums, full of sand, java moss, Marino balls, and small dried out and sterilized coral, with daphnia, scuds, blue tiger shrimp, and giant Japanese trapdoor snails. The bonus to keeping daphnia and scuds in the "filter" is that they find their way into the main tank and provide live food in small amounts. But so far it's been the most fun and successful experiment.

For healing, I bought some "Atisons beta spa" from eBay, it's apparently IALeaf extract and yucca and a few other things that have really made a difference with my intrepid little female (Snowdrop) who jumped into the tank with her brother and got her fins shredded. And unlike straight IAL water, it doesn't stink or look like your fish is swimming in iced tea! Anyway, it only took about 2 weeks for her fins to look almost good as new.