🌟 Exclusive Amazon Black Friday Deals 2024 🌟

Don’t miss out on the best deals of the season! Shop now 🎁

Today's a new day.

Get your dad to take you to an ANGFA and Aquarium Society meeting and see how you like it. The people were always friendly and helpful and we never had any issues. If you go to the meetings frequently, you could put a piece of art on the raffle table for someone to win.

This is your thread, you can talk about whatever you like, including rainbowfish. :)
 
Get your dad to take you to an ANGFA and Aquarium Society meeting and see how you like it. The people were always friendly and helpful and we never had any issues. If you go to the meetings frequently, you could put a piece of art on the raffle table for someone to win.

This is your thread, you can talk about whatever you like, including rainbowfish. :)
Yeah, I'll be happy to talk about rainbowfish with you. :)
 
@Colin_T, I just need to figure out the time of the combined ASWA and ANGFA WA meeting this year as the times are not mentioned on the ANGFA website. I want to meet the people at ANGFA but I'm scared to do so because they look like strangers... Let's hope it's the same time as 2010. Would you like to join a combined ASWA and ANGFA WA meeting with me on a third Tuesday during the school holidays? We could lecture about rainbowfish all night long :) But school is held on Tuesdays except school holidays, which is going to be a bit of a problem. Not only I'm fascinated with South American fish, but Australian native fish as well. :)
 
It's native fish time. I want to be knowledgeable like the others on the forum. The forum is very helpful and I thank @Colin_T and the others for contributing in the thread. So, rainbowfish and salamanderfish. They are unique fish and both are endangered and there must be more awareness to the natives. The WA government and federal government needs to take action and not destroy their remaining habitat. The ANGFA article 'A Daytime View of a Nighttime Fish' must be an interesting article to read, but cannot be downloaded due to it being a dead link. I need help with constructing some sort of a speech about those fishes and how to save them from extinction. Would you like to help me do a speech for the meeting despite I'm new to it?

Now, presentation. What clothes should I wear for the meeting? It's my first time going into an ANGFA/ASWA meeting. Do I need to wear casual or formal clothing for the meeting? Wearing clothes at a meeting feels different to me. Can I help out doing duties for people during the meeting?

I understand that you're in a bad situation currently. The neighbours should care for you because you are very knowledgeable about your subject. As I think you're a member of ANGFA (are you still a member of ANGFA currently?), you can come into the meeting if you'd like. :) You can certainly master the entire meeting because you may be more knowledgeable than some other people. People would like you a lot.

I borrowed Baensch Aquarium Atlas Vol. I a week ago from a fish store with their permission and brought it back to the store this Monday. I had a read on it and it's interesting. It covers the filter cycle, common fish and everything else, including biotope aquariums.

Learning more about fish diseases and other stuff is all I need to do with fishkeeping and I have to do that to avoid future mistakes with my tetras.
 
@Colin_T, I just need to figure out the time of the combined ASWA and ANGFA WA meeting this year as the times are not mentioned on the ANGFA website. I want to meet the people at ANGFA but I'm scared to do so because they look like strangers... Let's hope it's the same time as 2010. Would you like to join a combined ASWA and ANGFA WA meeting with me on a third Tuesday during the school holidays? We could lecture about rainbowfish all night long :) But school is held on Tuesdays except school holidays, which is going to be a bit of a problem. Not only I'm fascinated with South American fish, but Australian native fish as well. :)
People are only strangers until you meet them. :)

Fish club meetings started around 7:30pm (I think) and went to about 10:30pm. Sometimes a few of us would stay back after it ended and talk about fish but you can leave any time.

The meetings start with a welcome to any new members and visitors, followed by minutes of the previous meeting, and then a talk about whatever the subject is for that night.

Then a 10-20 minute tea break where you can have tea, coffee, milk or water and a few biscuits. Raffle tickets are normally sold during the tea break.

After the tea break they do the raffle draw and have a short discussion about whatever.

---------------------

You just wear normal clothes to the fish club meetings, they are very informal. It's not a special fancy club or anything, it's just a group of people with an interest in fish and other aquatic organisms. Some people keep plants (terrestrial and aquatic), some have pets like dogs and cats, some have reptiles. They are just normal people like you and me.

You don't do a talk on your first visit to the meeting. You go there a few times and meet a few people, see if you like it and if you do, then maybe become a member and then maybe do a talk.

You don't need to do anything, especially as a guest/ visitor. You go there and see if you like it, if you do, then you go the following month and after a bit you can offer to help with different things.

Sometimes they need people to sell raffle tickets during the tea break and if you offer, I'm sure they would let you sell them. You simply walk around the room asking anyone if they want a raffle ticket. Some people don't buy any, others buy lots of tickets. The money from the raffle tickets goes towards paying for the tea, coffee and biscuits, as well as for the hall hire.

I'm not a member of any fish club currently and haven't been for a long time. I'm also not the most knowledgeable person at the meetings either, there are some very smart people that know a lot about fish that go to the meetings.

I can't really go to meetings due to health reasons. If I catch a virus I end up in hospital or the graveyard. I also don't think people want to hear me struggling to breath or watch me coughing up blood.

---------------------

Baensch Aquarium Atlas (freshwater fish) volume 1 is very good for learning about water chemistry, water quality and filtration, as well as about diseases. Sometimes you can find copies at secondhand bookshops or at the markets and they are a lot cheaper than buying them new. You can also see if the local library has aquarium books you can borrow.
 
Last edited:
It's native fish time. I want to be knowledgeable like the others on the forum. The forum is very helpful and I thank @Colin_T and the others for contributing in the thread. So, rainbowfish and salamanderfish. They are unique fish and both are endangered and there must be more awareness to the natives. The WA government and federal government needs to take action and not destroy their remaining habitat. The ANGFA article 'A Daytime View of a Nighttime Fish' must be an interesting article to read, but cannot be downloaded due to it being a dead link. I need help with constructing some sort of a speech about those fishes and how to save them from extinction. Would you like to help me do a speech for the meeting despite I'm new to it?
ANGFA WA has a library at the meeting hall and has books that members can borrow between meetings. They used to have all the Fishes of SAHUL and ANGFA National newsletters and the article should be in one of them.
You might also be able to get back issues from ANGFA National but you would need to become a member to get them. I am pretty sure they do digital copies now so they email them to you instead of sending you a paper copy in the post.

---------------------

To do a talk on endangered native fishes you could start off talking about the various native freshwater fishes found in the south-west of Western Australia. Identify the different species and describe their habitats and what they eat. Then move on to what is happening to their habitats (the loss of habitat and pollution), combined with climate change (global warming and less rain), making life more difficult for the fish. Introduced species competing for food and preying on the native fish eggs and larvae, and lack of trees and plants that encourage insects to the waterways for the native fishes to feed on. Pesticide poisoning from agricultural spray drift. Herbicide poisoning from people using herbicides near or on waterways. Maybe finish off with suggesting a captive breeding program and asking for ideas on how we can get the government involved in saving the fishes and other creatures living in local waterways.

However, governments don't really care about the environment. They might try to save a cute baby Koala but they only do it for publicity. If you do find a politician who actually cares about saving the planet and life on Earth, that is great but they are not commonly seen. The Tasmanian Devil is a nice animal but they are dying out due to a facial tumour. The government isn't doing a lot to help them. Fish, especially small dull brown fish from the south-west that most people have never heard of, don't even get a second glance when it comes to saving them and their environment. If you can get the government to save the area around the waterways, you might be able to save the fish too but only because of their proximity to the area being saved.

The native fishes found in the south-west of WA include:
Galaxias maculatus (I found it in Walpole once) is not endangered yet because they are found over east and in New Zealand (I think), but not found here very often.

Galaxias occidentalis is not endangered but local populations can be wiped out easily if their habitat is destroyed. Each isolated population has different markings to other populations and they could be distinct species or subspecies. The ones living in Perth and the Canning River are regularly poisoned by councils and other people spraying Glyphosate (Roundup) along the edges of waterways. Glyphosate is also sprayed along the side of roads to kill weeds and the dry residue gets washed into local waterways when it rains. The dry residue is carcinogenic for at least 6 months after it is sprayed and it becomes toxic when it's made wet again. The WA Health department told me that back in 2006 and yet the stuff still gets sprayed everywhere. This herbicide kills everything in the water and I used to know when the council had sprayed in Riverton and other areas because there would be dead fish and frogs in the creek and it took months before anything started to appear after that.

Galaxias truttaceus is endangered in WA. It's only found in the Goodga River and supposedly the King River in Albany. However, I never found it in the King River, I only found the fish in the Goodga River. People have been releasing introduced species into the upper lake area of the Goodga River for over 10 years. The non-native fishes have introduced diseases that are killing the Galaxias. This fish is found over east and is not considered endangered over there but it is here in WA.

Galaxiella munda is endangered due to poisoning and introduced species, as well as loss of habitat due to land clearing and a drying climate.

Galaxiella nigrostriata is endangered (if not already extinct) due to the same reasons as G. munda, and G. nigrostriata has a much smaller habitat range making it more vulnerable.

Bostockia porosa (nightfish) is not endangered yet but will disappear when there is not enough rain and the waterways heat up too much for it. These fish are only found in the south-west of WA and nowhere else in the world. There are relatives over east but they grow bigger and look different. They are difficult to keep in captivity due to dietary requirements and have not been bred in captivity. In fact very few people have even kept them in captivity.

Nannoperca pygmaea is the newly described little pygmy perch from down south. It is potentially endangered due to a small habitat range and drying climate. However, it shouldn't be hard to breed in captivity and it can be kept in aquariums or ponds in Perth.

Nannoperca vittata (formerly Edelia vittata) is not endangered and is very easy to keep. Again though, local populations are regularly poisoned by people spraying Glyphosate around waterways. The fish also has to deal with Gambusia and my research found wherever large numbers of Gambusia occurred, the pygmy perch and other native species disappeared. So anywhere that has Gambusia, could become devoid of pygmy perch and other native fishes. Due to the widespread distribution of Gambusia species in the south-west and right around the country, any native fish is going to struggle when the Gambusia are around. Pygmy perch are easy to keep and breed in captivity and that could save them if people are allowed to keep them.

Nannatherina balstoni is endangered due to a tiny area that it inhabits down south. Lack of rainfall and habitat destruction will also see this species disappear in the near future. It's not the easiest fish to keep in aquariums and to my knowledge has not been bred in captivity.

Lepidogalaxias salamandroides is endangered and will probably be the first endemic fish from the south-west of WA to become extinct due to lack of rain and habitat destruction. It's not easy to keep in aquariums and has not been bred in captivity. This makes it extremely susceptible to climate change and habitat destruction, both of which are occurring right now.

Tandanus bostocki is a native catfish that most don't consider endangered but it is nowhere near as common now compared to 50 years ago. We used to see huge schools of these (in juvenile form) as well as lots of individual adults in the upper reaches of the Canning River back in the 1970s and 80s, but there are virtually none now and you might be lucky if you see one a year. They are susceptible to poisoning from chemical runoff and nobody is keeping or breeding them in captivity. They are nocturnal and most people don't go fish watching at night so they could easily become extinct and nobody would notice it for years.
 
ANGFA WA has a library at the meeting hall and has books that members can borrow between meetings. They used to have all the Fishes of SAHUL and ANGFA National newsletters and the article should be in one of them.
You might also be able to get back issues from ANGFA National but you would need to become a member to get them. I am pretty sure they do digital copies now so they email them to you instead of sending you a paper copy in the post.

---------------------

To do a talk on endangered native fishes you could start off talking about the various native freshwater fishes found in the south-west of Western Australia. Identify the different species and describe their habitats and what they eat. Then move on to what is happening to their habitats (the loss of habitat and pollution), combined with climate change (global warming and less rain), making life more difficult for the fish. Introduced species competing for food and preying on the native fish eggs and larvae, and lack of trees and plants that encourage insects to the waterways for the native fishes to feed on. Pesticide poisoning from agricultural spray drift. Herbicide poisoning from people using herbicides near or on waterways. Maybe finish off with suggesting a captive breeding program and asking for ideas on how we can get the government involved in saving the fishes and other creatures living in local waterways.

However, governments don't really care about the environment. They might try to save a cute baby Koala but they only do it for publicity. If you do find a politician who actually cares about saving the planet and life on Earth, that is great but they are not commonly seen. The Tasmanian Devil is a nice animal but they are dying out due to a facial tumour. The government isn't doing a lot to help them. Fish, especially small dull brown fish from the south-west that most people have never heard of, don't even get a second glance when it comes to saving them and their environment. If you can get the government to save the area around the waterways, you might be able to save the fish too but only because of their proximity to the area being saved.

The native fishes found in the south-west of WA include:
Galaxias maculatus (I found it in Walpole once) is not endangered yet because they are found over east and in New Zealand (I think), but not found here very often.

Galaxias occidentalis is not endangered but local populations can be wiped out easily if their habitat is destroyed. Each isolated population has different markings to other populations and they could be distinct species or subspecies. The ones living in Perth and the Canning River are regularly poisoned by councils and other people spraying Glyphosate (Roundup) along the edges of waterways. Glyphosate is also sprayed along the side of roads to kill weeds and the dry residue gets washed into local waterways when it rains. The dry residue is carcinogenic for at least 6 months after it is sprayed and it becomes toxic when it's made wet again. The WA Health department told me that back in 2006 and yet the stuff still gets sprayed everywhere. This herbicide kills everything in the water and I used to know when the council had sprayed in Riverton and other areas because there would be dead fish and frogs in the creek and it took months before anything started to appear after that.

Galaxias truttaceus is endangered in WA. It's only found in the Goodga River and supposedly the King River in Albany. However, I never found it in the King River, I only found the fish in the Goodga River. People have been releasing introduced species into the upper lake area of the Goodga River for over 10 years. The non-native fishes have introduced diseases that are killing the Galaxias. This fish is found over east and is not considered endangered over there but it is here in WA.

Galaxiella munda is endangered due to poisoning and introduced species, as well as loss of habitat due to land clearing and a drying climate.

Galaxiella nigrostriata is endangered (if not already extinct) due to the same reasons as G. munda, and G. nigrostriata has a much smaller habitat range making it more vulnerable.

Bostockia porosa (nightfish) is not endangered yet but will disappear when there is not enough rain and the waterways heat up too much for it. These fish are only found in the south-west of WA and nowhere else in the world. There are relatives over east but they grow bigger and look different. They are difficult to keep in captivity due to dietary requirements and have not been bred in captivity. In fact very few people have even kept them in captivity.

Nannoperca pygmaea is the newly described little pygmy perch from down south. It is potentially endangered due to a small habitat range and drying climate. However, it shouldn't be hard to breed in captivity and it can be kept in aquariums or ponds in Perth.

Nannoperca vittata (formerly Edelia vittata) is not endangered and is very easy to keep. Again though, local populations are regularly poisoned by people spraying Glyphosate around waterways. The fish also has to deal with Gambusia and my research found wherever large numbers of Gambusia occurred, the pygmy perch and other native species disappeared. So anywhere that has Gambusia, could become devoid of pygmy perch and other native fishes. Due to the widespread distribution of Gambusia species in the south-west and right around the country, any native fish is going to struggle when the Gambusia are around. Pygmy perch are easy to keep and breed in captivity and that could save them if people are allowed to keep them.

Nannatherina balstoni is endangered due to a tiny area that it inhabits down south. Lack of rainfall and habitat destruction will also see this species disappear in the near future. It's not the easiest fish to keep in aquariums and to my knowledge has not been bred in captivity.

Lepidogalaxias salamandroides is endangered and will probably be the first endemic fish from the south-west of WA to become extinct due to lack of rain and habitat destruction. It's not easy to keep in aquariums and has not been bred in captivity. This makes it extremely susceptible to climate change and habitat destruction, both of which are occurring right now.

Tandanus bostocki is a native catfish that most don't consider endangered but it is nowhere near as common now compared to 50 years ago. We used to see huge schools of these (in juvenile form) as well as lots of individual adults in the upper reaches of the Canning River back in the 1970s and 80s, but there are virtually none now and you might be lucky if you see one a year. They are susceptible to poisoning from chemical runoff and nobody is keeping or breeding them in captivity. They are nocturnal and most people don't go fish watching at night so they could easily become extinct and nobody would notice it for years.
Thanks for the idea @Colin_T, and good morning to you since I just got up today. I understand that the governments do not care about native animals, fish included. It makes me happy when salamanderfish becomes a favourite native fish of mine. I want to help, too. I will find any salamanderfish and other endangered fish organisations, have a read about them and probably join the call for help. A letter to government could probably help, but you are correct, they don't care about natives.
---------------

Today's Saturday.

I understand that stuff happens a lot, especially for a Year 12 student. The upcoming EST, exams and some other hard stuff will happen in Term 2. Green house (out of the six rainbow houses) won the swimming carnival yesterday. I don't initially like my own house but guess I'll deal with it.

In protection of endangered species, survey waterways for any endangered native freshwater fish, bushland for land animals and part of an ocean for marine animals. Take action for charities that help endangered animals. I like rare stuff, it intrigues me the most. :)

Moving on to music, my favourite genre is a wide variety of music except classical and country. @Colin_T, what's your favourite genre of music? What music do you enjoy the most? Bah, classical music is not good for my mind...

The arts have been going on for a really long time. Visual arts (photography, artworks and others) included. What did you like to draw (I assume you tried drawing and painting once)? I don't have in-person friends but I can get friendships on the forum. We do have a common interest, fish and plants.

I really wanted to give my thanks to you, Colin, for being very helpful to me. I don't want to stay up too late when the ANGFA meeting comes because it clashes with the school term, but I will go on the school holidays :)
 
@Colin_T I am not good at speeches but I tried to do an example one:

SPEECH FOR ANGFA/ASWA

There are fish that are common in the fishkeeping hobby; and there are fish rarer than tigers. If we can save tigers, why not save native freshwater fish from extinction? That begs the question on how to save them from extinction. Most endemic Southwestern Australian fish are endangered and we need immediate action to save them. Freshwater ecosystems are slowly disappearing due to a drying climate fuelled by climate change, habitat loss and pesticide poisoning; and if we don't take action now, they will disappear from time.

The South-west region of Western Australia is full of unique native species, for example, Myrmecobius fasciatus fasciatus, the numbat (nominate subspecies), Zanda baudinii, Baudin's black cockatoo, and Tarsipes rostratus, the noolbenger (honey possum). The former two are endangered and critically endangered in the wild, with the rufus numbat subspecies being extinct in the 1960s. But freshwater fish are often overlooked and many people have never heard of them. These native fish are the poster child of climate change and habitat loss in the Wildflower State. They are so rare, there is mostly limited information about them and many of them never been bred in captivity, with a few exceptions.

Lepidogalaxias salamandroides, the prehistoric salamanderfish, is much rarer in the wild than most of us think. They are Endangered according to the IUCN Red List. They are the only fish in the world that can turn their head independently, have been around since the dinosaurs and aestivates in sand during the dry summer period for 6 months of a year when the ponds have dried up. The salamanderfish lives in the South-west region in semi-permanent blackwater environments with no mineral content in waters as acidic as 3.0 pH. They grow up to 7.5cm maximum length and feed on microcrustaceans and insect larvae, which are delicious snacks for the salamanderfish to dine on. The fish cannot be bred in captivity due to special needs such as diet and that they cannot survive in captive environments for very long.

The threats to salamanderfish are habitat loss caused by widening country roads and climate change. The government thought that widening country roads can make roads less dangerous and prevent car accidents, but what will happen to the salamanderfish's habitat? It gets destroyed in the process.

The ponds get filled up with road concrete, causing the fish to die in their burrows. If the fish don't have enough body fat while they aestivate in their burrows, if the rains are late or when the climate is too dry and they aestivate longer, they die. And to add insult to injury, no one in the government really cared about the fish except putting their name into the history books. But we hobbyists do care about the fish and we have been wanting to breed them for a long time. It will take a long time to do a captive breeding program of this rare, prehistoric fish. This is a serious matter that we at ANGFA need to take seriously. The team at ANGFA have done captive breeding programs of an undescribed rainbowfish called the Running River rainbowfish. This rainbowfish has been saved from extinction by such captive breeding programs and people that helped save their habitat from destruction by introduced species.

The first time I heard about the salamanderfish was in a fish forum, a helpful one, from a year ago. I thought 'wow, what a neat little fish', but as I read more about it, and realising the government is not taking enough action on it, it is very saddening to see a prehistoric fish disappear before our own eyes and unnoticed to the public. If captive breeding programs are going to be taken place, the fish will be given a second glance of life and saved from extinction. We are like ants trying to raise cheetahs.

Salamanderfish are not the only native fish going extinct due to crises caused by humans. There are many others suffering the same fate too. Galaxias occidentalis, the western minnow, suffers a similar fate except they are more exposed to herbicides dumped near waterways. They are not threatened, but they can disappear easily when their habitat are destroyed. The body colour of the fish can range from olive-green to brown and have a distinctive vertical barred pattern throughout their bodies. Western minnows live in the South-west region and grow up to a maximum total length of 20cm but usually grow to 9cm. The fish can jump up to 50cm, which makes them excellent navigators while migrating up-stream. They feed on crustaceans and insects that land on the water. This fish have been bred in captivity before but not reared up successfully.

The herbicide issue happens when local councils get rid of weeds in the designated area. This can spread into the waterways themselves, killing the fish and any small water animal in the affected waterways. This is called herbicide poisoning. Many native fish, including western minnows, are affected and killed by herbicide poisoning, which herbicides are being sprayed by local councils in order to control weeds. A lack of trees and bushes near the waterway area is a problem for some native fish. Most fish, but not all of them, depend on terrestrial insects for their survival. Habitat loss is the main cause of insect population collapse because of urban sprawl, meaning more houses for people, due to a rising population and need for housing, and less habitat for native animals.

Introduced species are also a threat to native fish, with the government releasing non-native trout that has fish TB in the wild for fishing purposes, effectively killing native fish with their disease. Introduced species are one of the main reasons why native animals go extinct. They take over the food chain, disrupting it. They also kill native animals, as in the case of foxes and cats. They were introduced by British people in purpose and they disrupted the environment and killed a lot of different native animals, birds and fish.

Captive breeding programs are the second best way to save endangered fish, including salamanderfish, after habitat protection. If the government allow hobbyists to do a captive breeding program for the salamanderfish, the western minnow and other Western Australian native fish, life would be so much better for the fishes as hobbyists are here to save the species. If we can breed them, local ecosystems thrive. If we can breed them, we can save their habitat as we can survey them. If we can breed them, we can save the fishes from potential extinction by breeding the next generation of native fish in captivity, then releasing them into the wild. It's like the captive breeding programs held by zoos and some public aquaria around the world.

Zoos, hobbyists and aquaria can contribute to saving species by doing the following: the endangered animal is first captured in the wild (happened in the past, but not anymore) kept in captivity, if a pair comes, zookeepers try to breed them to secure the next generation of animals and some of the best grown-up offspring are eventually released back into the wild, and repeat, repeat, repeat. Some animals do survive being released back into the wild, but others die in a few days. Habitat protection is the most important aspect of freshwater fish conservation. If we can protect the habitat of a specific native fish, the fish will have a high chance of survival. We can protect fish habitat by preventing it being destroyed for roads, houses, etc. You can help out by doing the following:

  1. Donate to charities that specialises in wetland conservation,
  2. Volunteer a wetland survey by a group that specialises in wetlands,
  3. Join ANGFA and other local aquarium society groups in your country/state
  4. and finally, do your own captive breeding program to help ANGFA preserve freshwater fish population, but it can be difficult to achieve

The question at the start is if we can save tigers, why not save native freshwater fish from extinction? Fish are very important in local wetlands. They keep the food chain going. They are a good food source for people. They inspire Aboriginal Dreamtime stories. They have a purpose, and we have a purpose to save them. If you have a dream of conserving wild fishes, chase it and do the right thing and defy the odds. Be a good hobbyist and start your own conservation adventure.
 
Last edited:
Umm, earlier I watched MTV's Ridiculousness and uh, that clip of Gene Simmons on the show from 2020. What the heck did I do? Why, why, (pause) why? Maybe I'm a bit bored, but feeling disgusted when he does the you-know-what. No, not the tongue... Eugh, why did I fall into this trap? It was like watching last year's AFL Grand Final when Kiss was performing and that Gene Simmons tongue... :sick:

As an interviewer in 60 Minutes (I think) during a Gene Simmons interview puts it 'But this is going to get very weird...' Yep she freaked out once. Uh, (ahem) yes, that thing. :| Well, I do not like people displaying their tongues all throughout talk shows, etc. Moral of the story, do not underestimate the human tongue... Maybe Kiss is weird after all?
 
When I go to a club or association I haven't been to before, I stay very quiet. I try to be friendly to all, but I assume there are many people there who know a lot about things I don't know yet (but can learn from them). I wouldn't give speeches to people who know the subject better than I do, even though I risk doing that here, online. I had kept fish for 25 years before I ventured to write an article about them.
Once I have a sense of who I'm talking with, then conversation always breaks out! I love a good fish discussion.
When I joined my local club, I eventually learned that among the old men and women in the room were people who had introduced fish I loved to the hobby, or who had been the first to breed a number of species. There were quiet, unassuming people who had run stores for decades, or who had collected fish in the wild fifty years before. They were up for fishtalk, and were there to share their learning and experience. They weren't snobs or braggarts - just people who had had decades of fun with this hobby.


So if you go to ANGFA, be a fly on the wall for the first few meetings. Learn.
 
When I go to a club or association I haven't been to before, I stay very quiet. I try to be friendly to all, but I assume there are many people there who know a lot about things I don't know yet (but can learn from them). I wouldn't give speeches to people who know the subject better than I do, even though I risk doing that here, online. I had kept fish for 25 years before I ventured to write an article about them.
Once I have a sense of who I'm talking with, then conversation always breaks out! I love a good fish discussion.
When I joined my local club, I eventually learned that among the old men and women in the room were people who had introduced fish I loved to the hobby, or who had been the first to breed a number of species. There were quiet, unassuming people who had run stores for decades, or who had collected fish in the wild fifty years before. They were up for fishtalk, and were there to share their learning and experience. They weren't snobs or braggarts - just people who had had decades of fun with this hobby.


So if you go to ANGFA, be a fly on the wall for the first few meetings. Learn.
I agree with you. There is a convention of ANGFA coming up in September, held in Cairns.
 
Good evening @Colin_T. Ready to gain some knowledge together? Graham Thompson from Terrestrial Ecosystems had confirmed that the monthly ANGFA meeting will be held on the 22nd of Feb (Thursday) in West Leederville in the Sporting Club at 7pm onwards.

The days go by and the days come. Every day is different and currently booking a flight to Cairns with mum to catch this year's ANGFA convention in September. I'd like to go to the ANGFA convention, but it will take some time to compare Virgin prices to Qantas prices before we make the final decision. I might stay there for a week, but hasn't been confirmed yet.
 
How did you get in touch with Graham Thompson?
FYI, if you are really interested in the salamanderfish, Graham is the man to talk to. He studied them years ago when he was a lecturer at ECU? and most of the information about them is from his work. He's a really smart man and a nice guy to talk to so if you do go to the meeting, say hi to him. Syd Adams is another really knowledgeable fish keeper and all round nice guy.

--------------------

Why are you booking a ticket to the ANGFA National Convention?
Is your mum ok with this?

If you do go to the convention, try and stay there for a week or two because the local ANGFA members from Queensland often take people out for day trips to do some collecting. Queensland is a hot spot for rainbowfishes and there are some really beautiful fish from around there. Rhadinocentrus ornatus, Pseudomugil signifer from Townsville and the Ross River, Pseudomugil mellis, Utchee Creek rainbows, Dirran Creek rainbows, Atherton Red rainbows. There's so many fish from there it's not funny. There is almost a different species in every river and there are lots of rivers there.

If you do go to the convention, setup a bunch of tanks and ponds before you go so you have somewhere to put all the fish you bring back. And contact AQIS (Australian Quarantine Inspection Services in WA) and see what you need to do to bring rainbowfish back into WA. They can normally come into the state but they will confiscate invertebrates (shrimp, snails, mussels, etc) and most plants. If you bring plants back, make sure they are allowed into WA and try to get tissue cultured plants because they are free of diseases and should be allowed in without any issues, assuming they aren't considered a pest species.
 
How did you get in touch with Graham Thompson?
FYI, if you are really interested in the salamanderfish, Graham is the man to talk to. He studied them years ago when he was a lecturer at ECU? and most of the information about them is from his work. He's a really smart man and a nice guy to talk to so if you do go to the meeting, say hi to him. Syd Adams is another really knowledgeable fish keeper and all round nice guy.

--------------------

Why are you booking a ticket to the ANGFA National Convention?
Is your mum ok with this?

If you do go to the convention, try and stay there for a week or two because the local ANGFA members from Queensland often take people out for day trips to do some collecting. Queensland is a hot spot for rainbowfishes and there are some really beautiful fish from around there. Rhadinocentrus ornatus, Pseudomugil signifer from Townsville and the Ross River, Pseudomugil mellis, Utchee Creek rainbows, Dirran Creek rainbows, Atherton Red rainbows. There's so many fish from there it's not funny. There is almost a different species in every river and there are lots of rivers there.

If you do go to the convention, setup a bunch of tanks and ponds before you go so you have somewhere to put all the fish you bring back. And contact AQIS (Australian Quarantine Inspection Services in WA) and see what you need to do to bring rainbowfish back into WA. They can normally come into the state but they will confiscate invertebrates (shrimp, snails, mussels, etc) and most plants. If you bring plants back, make sure they are allowed into WA and try to get tissue cultured plants because they are free of diseases and should be allowed in without any issues, assuming they aren't considered a pest species.
Ah! The ANGFA WA contact details. Graham is part of the ANGFA executive committee for this year. I can try to collect fish from the Cairns area, but that too will be the very first time I have ever done it. Problem is I don't like getting wet. On why I will book the flight to Cairns for the convention? Mum and I have planned to go there for a week or two not only because of the convention, also because there are also cousins and relatives that live in Cairns. We haven't booked it yet, we are comparing prices of flights from Qantas and Virgin. Usually there is one or two stops in between the flight to Cairns from Perth.

I have never went into a convention over east before. I have heard of it on the ANGFA website, but never been to it before. I would love it though.
 
Today's Sunday. A brand new day, doing some watercolour work. @Colin_T Graham Thompson just confirmed to me via mail that ANGFA met on the 15 Feb instead of the 22nd. My mistake, I thought the 22nd was the third Thursday. I will meet again on March 21 (third Thursday of March).

It's been months and months since the slow shift of the like of South American fish and Australian fish. Both are fascinating creatures and have been around the hobby for who knows. I'm in ANGFA territory and I can't wait to meet new people here. This is ANGFA territory and hobbyists are welcome to save endangered fish.

Now for question of the day: Why is the local government accusing hobbyists of doing the wrong thing i.e. mining in national parks while they're literally trying to save species from extinction? And how do hobbyists deal with the government when they're told no when getting rare species?
 

Most reactions

Back
Top