The Many Different Species Of Kuhli Loach

[Retired Viking]

I've been looking for shelfordii for 2 years now! I'd love to know where you got yours. And the albino ones as well! Thanks

This is an old thread started in 2013 so you may not get an answer

 

[Cynpeterson88]

This is an old thread started in 2013 so you may not get an answer

The person that had the shelfordii was from march 2019 so I'm hopeful.

 

[Retired Viking]

The person that had the shelfordii was from march 2019 so I'm hopeful.

Good luck, hope he answers you.

 

[Essjay]

It is unlikely you'll get a reply. The person who made that post has not been on the forum after making that post.

 

[anewbie]

pangio shelfordii are the best but i haven't seen any for sale in since the pandemic. I have a few from 2019 left (amazingly i found them hiding in my 120 with angelfishes along with my one remaining pangio merysi (another fish i haven't seen in a long time). I know this is an old thread but i love pangio they are so pangio !

 

[bhags]

Im dying to find hair band kuhli / shelfordii . If anyone knows of where to find some please lmk. Wetspot has purples in though

 

[WhistlingBadger]

I had a big school of cuneovirgata in my Sumatran rice paddy biotope. Such a fun little fish.

 

[GaryE]

It's a very old thread, but a very interesting one. I slap my forehead in despair at them all being called "kuhli" loaches when the name only works for one species. Our hobby, sometimes...

It's sad to see how many of the posters in very old threads are no longer on the forum, in spite of excellent contributions.

 

[WhistlingBadger]

It's a very old thread, but a very interesting one. I slap my forehead in despair at them all being called "kuhli" loaches when the name only works for one species. Our hobby, sometimes...

It's sad to see how many of the posters in very old threads are no longer on the forum, in spite of excellent contributions.

It seems like there was a mass Exodus in the early-mid 2010s. I've noticed several of these very knowledgeable posters who were "last seen" around there. Hmmm, that's right about the time I joined. Coincidence, I'm sure.

 

[anewbie]

It's a very old thread, but a very interesting one. I slap my forehead in despair at them all being called "kuhli" loaches when the name only works for one species. Our hobby, sometimes...

It's sad to see how many of the posters in very old threads are no longer on the forum, in spite of excellent contributions.

Well at least two of them are commonly called kuhli and the one most frequently sold as kuhli isn't a kuhli at all....

 

[fishorama]

"Kuhli" (or the kind of racist? or phonetic spelling? "coolie") loaches were 1 of the first genus to change name, that I noticed anyway for species I've kept. I learned Acanthophthalmus, which I like as it translates to "thorn eyes". But it's been Pangio for a quite long time. Easier to spell, always a plus to me, lol.
I pretend kuhli is generic in a vague way like many "tetra" or "corydoras" are lately. But maybe more like "firemouths" or "kribensis" now that there are others similar in appearance from the species I kept 40 years ago. Or maybe it's like khaki pants, it a sand color; chinos are all those in the same fabric but any color...

Maybe the kuhli "species" was for early imports & any similar striped loaches. Then there were "black kuhlis" Obviously similar except for coloration. I'm not sure what "eel loaches" are either. Pointy nosed pangios? or any long skinny loach? I kept vaillantella maassi, fork tailed loaches, long skinny loaches. Interesting but not close to pangios in looks or behavior.

The coolest 1 I ever saw was an albino of some striped species, white body but pale orange saddles. A LFS got in 2 but 1 had died, 1 was sold. But the owner kept the dead 1 in the freezer as a novelty. I know albino is a regularly occurring mutation, but it was still interesting to see even dead.

anewbie, what not a "kuhli" loach were you referring to? I don't think I've seen that or knew it wasn't...

In case you can't tell I'm a loach nut, even in old threads!

 

[anewbie]

"Kuhli" (or the kind of racist? or phonetic spelling? "coolie") loaches were 1 of the first genus to change name, that I noticed anyway for species I've kept. I learned Acanthophthalmus, which I like as it translates to "thorn eyes". But it's been Pangio for a quite long time. Easier to spell, always a plus to me, lol.
I pretend kuhli is generic in a vague way like many "tetra" or "corydoras" are lately. But maybe more like "firemouths" or "kribensis" now that there are others similar in appearance from the species I kept 40 years ago. Or maybe it's like khaki pants, it a sand color; chinos are all those in the same fabric but any color...

Maybe the kuhli "species" was for early imports & any similar striped loaches. Then there were "black kuhlis" Obviously similar except for coloration. I'm not sure what "eel loaches" are either. Pointy nosed pangios? or any long skinny loach? I kept vaillantella maassi, fork tailed loaches, long skinny loaches. Interesting but not close to pangios in looks or behavior.

The coolest 1 I ever saw was an albino of some striped species, white body but pale orange saddles. A LFS got in 2 but 1 had died, 1 was sold. But the owner kept the dead 1 in the freezer as a novelty. I know albino is a regularly occurring mutation, but it was still interesting to see even dead.

anewbie, what not a "kuhli" loach were you referring to? I don't think I've seen that or knew it wasn't...

In case you can't tell I'm a loach nut, even in old threads!

The fish most often sold as kuhli loach is not pangio kuhli but pangio semicincta. There are around 30 species in the gneus pangio and while some are obviously not the famous kuhli loach or pangio kuhli there are a couple that are easily confused with it...
and
some simply have names so close to each other it is hard to tell what is what for example:
pangio longimanus and pangio longipinnis
(good luck finding pictures of either of those two)

 

[bhags]

Ill tell you one thing for certain is the pangio oblanga or whatever (black) is like a crackhead kuhli lol. They are absolutely hilarious and are always showing their mustaches