mozcheez
New Member
So... I'm happy to finally join FishForums instead of lurking all the time and reading everyone else's posts! Finally making one of my own. I've had a 10 gallon freshwater tank at work for 3-4 years now but have always used fish to help cycle the tank.
Recently, I purchased a 55 gallon tank for my home and wanted to try the fishless cycling method. Got the stand set up Tuesday night and then set up the tank Wednesday night. 50 pounds of new gravel, 1 new centerpiece, 1 new smaller decoration, then about 5-6 new fake plants (small to large). I set up the filter (penguin 350 hob), heater (eheim jager 150w) and an air pump to help keep water moving on the side of the tank where the filter is NOT (the top of the tank is portioned off for 2 lids/lights and so I was not able to put the filter in the center of the tank). Filled up the tank to the lowest level possible for the heater (so the water would dump harder into the tank from the filter to promote even more oxygen/movement), added the dechlorinator and added some Tetra StartZyme tablets (5 tablets previously dissolved in warm water). I know the tablets are more for trying to immediately start a tank with fish, but I already had them and it supposedly will help establish bacteria sooner. I also added a small knee-high hose with some gravel from my established tank at work into the filter chamber. It was a very small amount of gravel (just a bit larger than the size of a golf ball).
After an hour, I started with the ammonia and managed to work the reading up to 4ppm (my API test offers a reading for 4ppm and 8ppm, was shooting for 5ppm) and then added what I thought would be enough additional drops to get me up to 5ppm.
Got home last night (it had almost been 24 hours) and tested the ammonia to see if it was down to 1ppm yet for me to add more. It read 0. So I tested the nitrites - but they were at 0! Then I tested the nitrates - 0 also! I really do NOT think it's possible that the tank cycled overnight, and so I'm curious as to what happened? Even though I used the small bit of established gravel and the startzyme tablets, I would think I'd at least find some nitrites or nitrates left in the tank, right?
Well, also it turns out my ammonia has some surfactant in it. In the 4-5 different fishless cycling instructions I found before starting, they had no recommendations for ensuring the ammonia had no additives. I just had bad luck in the directions I checked out, I guess. A search last night for more instructions turned up lots that strongly stress making sure the ammonia has no surfactants. Good news is that there are no bubbles in the tank and nothing feels soapy/slimy. I may have dodged a bullet. Will be going out tonight to search for the correct ammonia. Could that have something to do with the 0 readings? I mean, ammonia is still ammonia - it would have had to go somewhere?
I will be trying the ammonia process again tonight (up to 5ppm) with surfactant-free ammonia (hopefully) and test again Saturday evening to see where the levels are. It just seems too good to be true...
Thanks for anyone's help/tips.
Recently, I purchased a 55 gallon tank for my home and wanted to try the fishless cycling method. Got the stand set up Tuesday night and then set up the tank Wednesday night. 50 pounds of new gravel, 1 new centerpiece, 1 new smaller decoration, then about 5-6 new fake plants (small to large). I set up the filter (penguin 350 hob), heater (eheim jager 150w) and an air pump to help keep water moving on the side of the tank where the filter is NOT (the top of the tank is portioned off for 2 lids/lights and so I was not able to put the filter in the center of the tank). Filled up the tank to the lowest level possible for the heater (so the water would dump harder into the tank from the filter to promote even more oxygen/movement), added the dechlorinator and added some Tetra StartZyme tablets (5 tablets previously dissolved in warm water). I know the tablets are more for trying to immediately start a tank with fish, but I already had them and it supposedly will help establish bacteria sooner. I also added a small knee-high hose with some gravel from my established tank at work into the filter chamber. It was a very small amount of gravel (just a bit larger than the size of a golf ball).
After an hour, I started with the ammonia and managed to work the reading up to 4ppm (my API test offers a reading for 4ppm and 8ppm, was shooting for 5ppm) and then added what I thought would be enough additional drops to get me up to 5ppm.
Got home last night (it had almost been 24 hours) and tested the ammonia to see if it was down to 1ppm yet for me to add more. It read 0. So I tested the nitrites - but they were at 0! Then I tested the nitrates - 0 also! I really do NOT think it's possible that the tank cycled overnight, and so I'm curious as to what happened? Even though I used the small bit of established gravel and the startzyme tablets, I would think I'd at least find some nitrites or nitrates left in the tank, right?
Well, also it turns out my ammonia has some surfactant in it. In the 4-5 different fishless cycling instructions I found before starting, they had no recommendations for ensuring the ammonia had no additives. I just had bad luck in the directions I checked out, I guess. A search last night for more instructions turned up lots that strongly stress making sure the ammonia has no surfactants. Good news is that there are no bubbles in the tank and nothing feels soapy/slimy. I may have dodged a bullet. Will be going out tonight to search for the correct ammonia. Could that have something to do with the 0 readings? I mean, ammonia is still ammonia - it would have had to go somewhere?
I will be trying the ammonia process again tonight (up to 5ppm) with surfactant-free ammonia (hopefully) and test again Saturday evening to see where the levels are. It just seems too good to be true...
Thanks for anyone's help/tips.