Swordtails With Convicts

I have honduran red points in my 3 foot tank - they bred in around 3 weeks after being added so yes they breed easy. I keep mine with 2 small plecs and 3 stripped headstanders (juvies) - Ive also had ruby barbs in with them which did well but i swapped them with a friend. I think they will mix with most fish around 2.5-3.5 inch size - other tank mate ideas I have had are giant danios or swordtails - a lot of people keep HRPs with swordtails. Also thought about golden panchax and heard good things about larger tetras like black widows or von rio. A bit unsure how they would mix with smaller fish like small tetras or danio though as long as they are fast they will be fine - they chase away from fry but not exterminate like cons or jewels.

They are usually £5-£12 each. Pic in my display pic - males get to about 4 inch females stay on average 2.8 inch. Better colours than regular cons (on average) lot more red in the males fins and a brighter blues all over. A good indicator for true blood HRPs is that the third stripe from the nose is "broken" but regular cons sometimes have this.

An other issue with HRP is how true their blood like is like most convict relatives it will cross breed with similar fish so you often get "electric blue convicts" which is con x HRP and these have a reputation of being mental - even more agressive than the common convict these are usually bigger than HRPs as well. They also sometimes have line bred traits like long finnage or rough edges to the tails rather than the "paddle tail"

In a three foot tank you could only keep the rams with apistos or other dwarfs. But anything kribs, con or jewel cichlid size should only be kept 1 pair max per tank. I was in a really similar position to you about a month ago when I wanted to keep my HRPs with an other cichlid in my tank people advised against it here and after my own reading as well there really is just no way to justify it, its just far to risky and so many complications can arise as a result.
 
I have honduran red points in my 3 foot tank - they bred in around 3 weeks after being added so yes they breed easy. I keep mine with 2 small plecs and 3 stripped headstanders (juvies) - Ive also had ruby barbs in with them which did well but i swapped them with a friend. I think they will mix with most fish around 2.5-3.5 inch size - other tank mate ideas I have had are giant danios or swordtails - a lot of people keep HRPs with swordtails. Also thought about golden panchax and heard good things about larger tetras like black widows or von rio. A bit unsure how they would mix with smaller fish like small tetras or danio though as long as they are fast they will be fine - they chase away from fry but not exterminate like cons or jewels.

They are usually £5-£12 each. Pic in my display pic - males get to about 4 inch females stay on average 2.8 inch. Better colours than regular cons (on average) lot more red in the males fins and a brighter blues all over. A good indicator for true blood HRPs is that the third stripe from the nose is "broken" but regular cons sometimes have this.

An other issue with HRP is how true their blood like is like most convict relatives it will cross breed with similar fish so you often get "electric blue convicts" which is con x HRP and these have a reputation of being mental - even more agressive than the common convict these are usually bigger than HRPs as well. They also sometimes have line bred traits like long finnage or rough edges to the tails rather than the "paddle tail"

In a three foot tank you could only keep the rams with apistos or other dwarfs. But anything kribs, con or jewel cichlid size should only be kept 1 pair max per tank. I was in a really similar position to you about a month ago when I wanted to keep my HRPs with an other cichlid in my tank people advised against it here and after my own reading as well there really is just no way to justify it, its just far to risky and so many complications can arise as a result.

I am going to see if i can find some, they are not too expensive. But i dont want to wait soo long, because i have my tank ready.Do they need any special treatment, what do they eat??
 
My mate has a 120 gallon with a breeding pair of Severum,pair of Blue Acara a odd couple pair of a female convict and a male firemouth which breed regualry...a yellow Labidochromis (Mbuna),2 Angels,2 male Kribensis,Clown Loaches 10 Pearl Danios,10 Serpae Tetras,Corydoras,a Gibbiceps Plec, a Blue Gourami.........anddddddd 3 Male Swordtails.

Weirdest mix ever...all have been together since young and all are adults....

No problems at all.

Wouldnt do it personally but it shows you can keep swordtails with Convicts and other cichlids....these fish are years old to and he hasent lost anything.
 
My mate has a 120 gallon with a breeding pair of Severum,pair of Blue Acara a odd couple pair of a female convict and a male firemouth which breed regualry...a yellow Labidochromis (Mbuna),2 Angels,2 male Kribensis,Clown Loaches 10 Pearl Danios,10 Serpae Tetras,Corydoras,a Gibbiceps Plec, a Blue Gourami.........anddddddd 3 Male Swordtails.

Weirdest mix ever...all have been together since young and all are adults....

No problems at all.

Wouldnt do it personally but it shows you can keep swordtails with Convicts and other cichlids....these fish are years old to and he hasent lost anything.


yeah but thats a 120 gallon tank - still surprised with breeding sevs thats still working.


With the HRPs just feed them as normal - dont plant too much though as they do dig a bit so I have java fern and big valis plants and they work well. I think if you want some quickly with a true strain there are quite a few web sites that sell them by post. I know I have heard of a few people getting leustic ones from jeff rapps

Wills
 
Trust me a breeding convict would slaughter a breeding Sev if it wanted to ;) Infact a adult Male Convict could destroy pretty much any of the commonly available new world cichlids.

Sevs are gentle fish...remind me of big Discus from my years of experience with them before i switched to old worlds.

IMO Swordtails are tough little fish....the only issue with them is they are nippy and coudl annoy a Convict...which would lead to Swordtail chunks.
 
Cons are so crazy. I was wondering if i all kribs are easy to breed, and if they require any special conditions like rams?? If they need any special conditions then no kribs, but i still have the cons on the order list.
 
Nope as far as I am aware kribs are a good cichlid to start with nice fish IMO. When I was setting my tank up and looking at cichlids they were on my list to find some nice ones but I got my HRPs before i found a good pair.
 
Nope as far as I am aware kribs are a good cichlid to start with nice fish IMO. When I was setting my tank up and looking at cichlids they were on my list to find some nice ones but I got my HRPs before i found a good pair.

I wish i could get HRPs but its not possible anytime soon so i am gonna start with kribs. Are they as easy to breed though?? people say they are better than convicts in some cases and i was wondering what type of krib that would be??
 
I imagine most people mean Pelvachromis Pulcher - They are a pretty common fish in stores and a lot of people have good success with them but just remember when you do breed some fish you need to have a way to home the fish either your self or by giving or selling them back to your lfs. Other types of kribs to look out for are - taeniatius, roloffi, subocellatus and humilis. All have similar needs though they have slightly different shapes and colours - but one thing to say about those names are that the book they were taken from is from 2006 so at the rate that some fish are re named scientifically these could have changed.

The reason people will say kribs are better than cons is probably because it is possible to mix them and build a kind of community around them. Where as common cons are very limited if not best in isolation.
 
I imagine most people mean Pelvachromis Pulcher - They are a pretty common fish in stores and a lot of people have good success with them but just remember when you do breed some fish you need to have a way to home the fish either your self or by giving or selling them back to your lfs. Other types of kribs to look out for are - taeniatius, roloffi, subocellatus and humilis. All have similar needs though they have slightly different shapes and colours - but one thing to say about those names are that the book they were taken from is from 2006 so at the rate that some fish are re named scientifically these could have changed.

The reason people will say kribs are better than cons is probably because it is possible to mix them and build a kind of community around them. Where as common cons are very limited if not best in isolation.

I am planning on keeping kribs till my LFS finds HRPs on thier list and then i will get HRPs. My LFS buys fish off of me because i have been selling them for a long time, so selling krib fry wont be a problem. I heard that kribs are great community fish because they hide a lot, and only bother other fish if they get too close to the fry. Are all of those kribs easy to keep/breed, or only the Pelvachromis Pulcher??
Thanks
 
Ive not kept kribs in the past but as far as I know they all have similar needs and breed just as readily - kribs are actually african cichlids so maybe ask a few people in there they should be able to help you :) - though I have a feeling the rarer kribs will be as hard to get as HRPs
 
Ive not kept kribs in the past but as far as I know they all have similar needs and breed just as readily - kribs are actually african cichlids so maybe ask a few people in there they should be able to help you :) - though I have a feeling the rarer kribs will be as hard to get as HRPs

Ok, got it. So we agree here that convicts are not the thing for me :crazy:. So i will pst in the Africans section and see what i get. If i do happen to get HRPs, can i still keep the kribs with them?? Or species only?
 
Its kribs or HRPs. But with either of them you could build up a small community around them - have you had any ideas of what you would like?

Also I have to ask I saw you posting in the predatory section asking for fish for a 20g - and youve come up with bucktooth tetras and while these are a great fish they wont mix with the kribs or HRPs neither would most of the other fish mentioned in that post either. Was just a bit concerned as in that thread there were no mention of any form of cichlid tank mate or are these for a different tank?
 
Its kribs or HRPs. But with either of them you could build up a small community around them - have you had any ideas of what you would like?

Also I have to ask I saw you posting in the predatory section asking for fish for a 20g - and youve come up with bucktooth tetras and while these are a great fish they wont mix with the kribs or HRPs neither would most of the other fish mentioned in that post either. Was just a bit concerned as in that thread there were no mention of any form of cichlid tank mate or are these for a different tank?

maybe when i get another tank, then i will keep both but for right now I m getting kribs, i get them the day after tomorrow.
If the HRPs come up on the list in the LFS thwn i might get them and relocate the kribs.
The Exodons are going in another tank that i have. It is a 20 gallon that a friend gave me. I m keeping the cichlids in my community tank the 45 gallon tank.
 
Ah right fantastic! The kribs will love the 45g :) - Is the 45 a 4 foot tank?
 

Most reactions

Back
Top