Strange Behavior In Redcap Oranda...

[LRPRESTO]

Hi! I have been noticing some strange behavior in one of my redcap orandas this past three or four days. They are in a 45 gallon tank, levels are ph 7.6, nitrates 5.0, nitrites 0, ammonia 0. I have two bil wheel filter systems, a underwater system and a bubble wand. My one oranda keeps going into the right corner by the filter and laying on its side at the surface. As soon as I approach the tank he starts swimming again. I see no visible problems, no red streaks, no white spots, nothing. On the outside it looks healthy, but I notice it swimms a little fast and darts around some. I also have a pearlscale and an orange oranda in this tank. (I know one fish to many, but at this point it doesn't seem an issue and there is still plenty of room. When they get a little bigger I will get a bigger tank) Any ideas what the problem is or is this normal behavior? THanks!

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

The fish laying on its side at the surface isn't normal, it sounds like the fish could be having swimbladder problems.
What do you feed the fish and how much and how often on average ?

 

[LRPRESTO]

The fish laying on its side at the surface isn't normal, it sounds like the fish could be having swimbladder problems.
What do you feed the fish and how much and how often on average ?

I feed them TetraFin goldfish crisps twice a day. Once in the morning and then before bed. How can I help him?

 

[Musho3210]

do you soak before hand?

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

The fish laying on its side at the surface isn't normal, it sounds like the fish could be having swimbladder problems.
What do you feed the fish and how much and how often on average ?

I feed them TetraFin goldfish crisps twice a day. Once in the morning and then before bed. How can I help him?

Fancy goldfish are very prone to constipation, it is because they have been bred to have a short compact stomach, the problem with this is that it also compacts their guts into a shorter space (when in non-fancy goldfish the guts are spread across a longer, slimmer stomache area) which can make digestion difficult.

Feeding dried foods every day increases the risk of fancy goldfish suffering from constipation as dried or high protein foods can sit in the guts for a long time before being passed out. Constipation left unnoticed/untreated is a common cause of swimbladder problems in goldfish, the gas building up in the fishes stomach can put pressure on the fishes swimbladder or can lead to stomach infections which then infect the swimbladder etc.


Because swimbladder disorders in fancy goldfish can be commonly caused by numerous things, the best way to treat them is to do this;

a. Cut down on (even stop feeding) dried foods for a few days up to a week and feed the goldfish some cooked chopped up de-shelled pea's and/or some chopped up blanched spinache and perhaps some heart of cucumber etc every day- the soft veg is easy to digest and will help clear any digestion problems the goldfish may be having.
b. Treat the goldfish with and anti internal bacterial med (like "anti internal bacteria" of "swimbladder treatment" by interpet etc) incase the goldfishes swimbladder or stomach is infected.


Doing these two things should clear up the swimbladder problem the goldfish is suffering from .

 

[LRPRESTO]

Thank you! I will give it a try! The medicine you mentioned is one I have never heard of. do I treat the whole tank or just the one fish? I don't have a big enough hospital tank for him right now. Is it something that goes in the whole tank or can I feed it to just the one fish? THanks for your help!! Lisa

 

[Tokis-Phoenix]

Thank you! I will give it a try! The medicine you mentioned is one I have never heard of. do I treat the whole tank or just the one fish? I don't have a big enough hospital tank for him right now. Is it something that goes in the whole tank or can I feed it to just the one fish? THanks for your help!! Lisa

Oh whoops sorry i don't think you can get Interpet meds in america, its a UK fish medicine thing. Hm...There are still a lot of other anti internal bacterial meds though available of different brands available in the US, but i can't remember any from the top of my head . Hmm....

 

[branjie]

Is your Oranda feeling better now?

 

[*blacksnapemoor*]

can i feed my oranda cucumber an peas an stuff as it is pooing long white poo what dose this mean an what else can i feed my blackmoor 4 a treat