Something Is Going On

Alright.  They normally don't have a problem until this last week.  I will move the outputs above water... as that is about the only way to change them.
 
It can be that they age, or get exausted through pregnancies, or illness, but they get worn out and often find places to hide where they can avoid the current for a while. From the video they look like they are hiding to me. Hiding is always for rest. Either rest from a preditor, rest from a mate, rest from a bully, or rest from flow and with some fish it's to rest from bright lights.
 
I've moved the smaller filter in another direction and lessened the bigger one.
 
But, the current was actually only strong at the back at the top, not everywhere.  All the ones that were hiding and hovering places are still there now.

One of my blue coral platies (juvenile) is clamping today.
 
It's difficult to create true laminar flow in an aquarium. The shape of the tank tends to destroy the layers and we end up with turbulent flow instead. Of course I'm not pHD in hydrodynamics but that's my understanding. Which means that generally there is a transmission of flow power. We don't see this once we get below the surface because there's nothing to indicate it to the naked eye very well. Of course I'm not saying with any certainty that this is an issue in your tank but fish hiding behind something that can block flow makes me wonder.
 
My dad was a mechanic, in the old days, before computers could tell a person what was wrong with a car. He taught me to diagnose the engine by process of elimination starting with the easiest thing to eleminate. If a car won't start check the battery, if that's fine, check the ignition, etc.
 
Knowing in general what might cause an issue I do the same with fish tanks. This is helpful when the issue isn't readily visible. Ich, fungus, wounds, are easy to diagnose because they can be seen, but internal parasites, old age, etc. aren't so easy. I try to eleminate what it might be one step at a time and in general I've found that this works. Diverting flow, may not be enough, it may require an actual reduction in the speed.
 
I don't think I can reduce the speed.  I have a fluval U3 and it has a little thing at the top that has a back and forth arrow and I can press it down and it then blows less water out (I have mine set to blow out the top tube only) and so I pressed that.  My U3 is also to the right behind my bogwood which is heavily planted.  Anyhow... I base my guess on the flow only on the leaves moving.  And the leaves in the top 1/4 move quite a lot and there is next to no movement lower down.
 
The guppy with the blue tail who gets blown over is old for certain and the one with the black and white tail is about 6 months behind her.  The blue tailed one has been delicate in her swimming for some months now and I've been convinced she will be dead every morning because of it and she is still going.
 
Only two of my fish have ever had babies, the blue tailed guppy (had her last babies ages ago) and the large platy hiding (stopped having babies about 2 months ago).
 
 
Anyway... maybe I should remove the fluval mini altogether and just jam the media in the fluval U3?  That is probably the biggest way I can reduce the flow.
 
I noticed the one old guppy in the video. It seems clear enough in that case age is a factor.
 
Keep in mind this is just an experiement to see if it is or is not the flow. Any change you make can be undone in a couple of days to a week or so. You only need to make the change long enough to rule out flow as the cause. In some cases shutting all of it down for an hour is enough to tell, in others it takes a bit longer. It only would require a long term change if it turns out this is in fact the issue. You cross that bridge when you get to it. :)
 
I've removed the small filter so the flow is quite a lot less, or as much less as I can manage.  My hiding platy didn't even come out of hiding while I took off the lid and moved stuff.
 
I also tested the ammonia while I was at it just to make sure all is still well there and it is.
 
At least you can rule out water quality as the issue.
 
Water flow update...
 
 
Soo.... since changing the flow as much as I can... the same fish are still all hovering, just now more towards the front than towards the plants.  And large platy is still hiding behind the bogwood/plants.
 
I was going to say flow shouldn't be the issue with platies and guppies. Mine are in quite a lot of flow and althought I've got just male guppies, they actually go right where the filter outlet and a powerhead is,and seem to like to get blown around the place. I've had some for nearly 2 years like that.
 
I won't exclude water quality issues. Most of those tests will only register ammonia/nitrItes near 0.25ppm but you may have something like 0.10ppm or so on constant basis. Water changes won't harm. I'd try daily 50% ones for a week just to see if anything improves.  Check your Ph and see if it possibly changes/fluctuates as that maybe an issue.
It could be a disease or age related as well as those female guppies don't look very young :) Older fish are more prone to getting sick too and with a possible NTD, you never know. A UV sterilizer will help in that case as it will prevent re-infecting the healthy ones and will get rid of the problem eventually, as long as you remove the sick ones.
Good luck and hopefully it will sort itself out.
 
I have done a large water change today... will keep it up and see how it goes.
 
As for most ages....
 
My 6 guppies age ranges are from 1 year (the two smallest) to thereabouts 2 1/2 years.  I don't know the exact ages of the one with the yellow tail (bent spine) or the one with the orange tail... but I'd estimate they could be coming up to 2 years.
 
My large platy is thereabouts 1 1/2 years old.... all the rest of the platies are young... don't know off hand the age but I have it written down somewhere in a fb album.  LOL
 
I admit I sort of give up on neons... once they die out I'm not going to buy any more.  My biggest concern is that my large platy is hiding... her name is Gwen and I have always joked that she should be Mrs Grumpy Pants as she is bossy and quite nippy if she isn't with guppies (she LOVES guppies).  It is completely out of character for her to be hiding (for coming up to a week now)... she normally only hides when I look in (as she never forgave me for catching her and moving her out of the platy tank ages ago).
 
If you have just guppies and platies, have you tried some salt temporary.
You can just add like 1tablespoon per 10G of water for very low concentrations or max 1tbsp per 5g.  Melt it first in some tank water and then add gradually over a few days.  It certianly can help with minor disease outbreaks and platies and guppies won't mind that at all.
 
What's your Ph at the moment? Is it the same it always was and try testing in the course of a few days..
 
I do have some cherry shrimp and a lot of assassins.
 
My pH is currently 7.2.  I did have a pH shift but not lately.  It had been 7.2 long as I had been keeping fish... then some months back changed to 6.8, couldn't figure out why.  My guppies didn't take that well but my platies looked unchanged.  My neons were doing their best ever and that was the only time I went without cases of NTD.  It has changed back to 7.2 for 2-3 months now consistently.
 
Sounds like your guppy are quite old. Means they are getting tired. Try moving your filter to the other side of the tank if you can. Do more messing around with flow. While they are still hiding it is in a different spot. More experimenting I think.
 
Are the two that are about a year old considered old?  They do it too.  I need to look up their exact age....  ah yes, I was pretty much right... they are 1 year and 2 months old.
 

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