Siphon

[Nidge]

Thanks luxum im going to look into getting one

 

[waterwatereverywhere]

I tried the instructions on the package about the finger on the end and submerging but it didn't work.

Have another go at this - it's the way I've always done it. Submerge the whole syphon. Turn the ends up to force most of the air out, it should bubble out. Then keep a finger over one end and take it out of the tank, lower it so that it's lower than the end in the tank and let go. It might take a few goes but it does work.

 

[Tropjunky]

Fish harbor diseases that humans can catch.

I think that unless u have a problem with ur immune system or that u decided to breed the bacteria and inject urself with it i think it would be highly unkikly that u will catch any diseases. I've kept fish for almost 3years and i've siphoned water the same way every 2-3 week for 3 years wether i'm ill or not. I'm shure that ur all aware that the flu can lead to allsorts of stuff and if you can then i should have caught these diseses.

Yes it's true that Fish harbor diseases that humans can catch BUT simply breathing or kissing ur g\f can do the same. It't like saying you can get the common cold by breathing so i thing i'll go and setralise my house and seal it up and then stay there. I mean it's so stiupid. I tink i can speak for most of us but ur more likely you win the lottery than to get some kind of disease from the water.

 

[luxum]

The diseases you can catch from fish water are a heckuva lot more serious than the common cold, fish TB is a good example. If you want to subject yourself to such things, your decision, but it's irresponsible to advise others to not take common sense precautions. Getting water from a fishtank in your mouth is completely avoidable, you'd be wise to take basic precautions. Just because you haven't caught anything yet doesn't mean you can't or won't.

 

[StrontiumDog]

Dropsy is another known fish killer that can also do damage to humans.

Think it's transferd but the juve worm thought the skin. Please correct me if i'm wrong.

 

[noelberg]

as to the Pythons - i always hear that they're great and i would LOVE to have one, but I don't want to hassle with over 50' of hose to connect to the nearest indoor faucet. There are some other siphons that are battery powered or run on your air pump. However, they won't put the water back in your tank like the Python. Check out the web for these. One battery-powered one comes from Profile, and an air-pump operated one comes from Penn-Plax.

 

[Max]

. The bulb will work, but the best bet is to fork over the cash for a python. Those are soooo convienient, no lugging buckets.

no lugging buckets? how do you do it? can you get me a websight? how much are they? yeah questions... do i ask alot of questions?

 

[Teelie]

A python hooks up to your faucet which is good and bad. Good because no lugging buckets. Bad because it's untreated tap water going straight into your aquarium.

 

[luxum]

Yes, their website is here.

Bad because it's untreated tap water going straight into your aquarium.

It really is not a problem, you drain, then add the treatment product directly to the tank, then fill.

 

[Dorkhedeos]

you guys do know that viruses are species specific. humans cant get cats aids

 

[luxum]

you guys do know that viruses are species specific. humans cant get cats aids

Many bacteria are not species specific, and humans ~can~ get fish TB, among other diseases. And btw not all virii are species specific, and virii can mutate to move from one species to another in close proximity. This is how the asian flu strains and stuff like SARS happen, because humans there often live in close quarters with both ducks and pigs, pigs are physiologically related to humans and some virii are able to mutate enough to pass from duck to pig, and thence from pig to human. You are right though that humans do not catch the feline version of HIV, or any variant of it, so far.

 

[Teelie]

Yes, their website is here.

Bad because it's untreated tap water going straight into your aquarium.

It really is not a problem, you drain, then add the treatment product directly to the tank, then fill.

Unless your fish inhale some chlorine or chloramine before it gets treated...

 

[luxum]

People have been using pythons for years, the method works fine since dechlorinators work so quickly. Just remember to add the treatment first. But hey, if you don't beleive it, go right ahead with your bucket lugging, it's entirely your choice of course. B)

 

[Teelie]

Just because people have done it for years doesn't mean it's been done right the entire time. I only lug buckets when I dump the water. The rest of the time I use water jugs to refill it. While it's not as hassle-free as a python, it's a lot cheaper and I can control the water better. I'd rather have a little hardship but better control than no hardship and less control.

 

[luxum]

As i said, your choice, however i've never known anyone who used a python to have a problem with the dechlorinating method described. I did my share of bucket lugging as well.