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Your neon are soft water fish where the platys and mollies are hard. As @essjay stated your water is in the middle. I have a soft water tetra tank with neon, glow light and ember tetra. They like shade so floating plants will be good for reducing their stress also try and avoid bright lights. They come from jungle streams with lots of shade. I also have 2 hard water tanks for my platy and molly.
 
Toddlers are very very important and need all the room you can give them, We had four children, 3 girls and a boy. We now help take care of our only grandchild and she is a little cute-z . I set up a LOTR castle tank just for her to watch the guppies and platy.
 
Toddlers are very very important and need all the room you can give them, We had four children, 3 girls and a boy. We now help take care of our only grandchild and she is a little cute-z . I set up a LOTR castle tank just for her to watch the guppies and platy.

I've one boy, 2.5 yrs. He's enjoying watching the tank and the "hiding shark" (Plecos) and baby fish (neon tetra fry).
 
I hope my neon and ember will have fry, I had red eyed tetra in the tank and they had fry. Started with 5 (2f/3m)and in 3-4 months I had 15. I then gave them all away to my bother-in-law and two weeks later 2 more fry showed up. I have the water soften down to around 38ppm from 134ppm, a little more and maybe I will get lucky.
 
Thanks everyone. Honestly. I've been staring at the rank an hour each evening and get pretty upset when it's gone wrong so thanks so much for the advice and help.

We've only 2 fish shops in my nearest city but I'm sure they'll have some of plants mentioned. I really regret not looking up this stuff before buying the tank & fish and cycling the tank right.

Hopefully I can turn it around now. Cheers
Chin up, you can totally turn it around now. Many of us have been in your shoes, and it's a super steep learning curve, made so much worse when you're given bad advice. It makes sense to trust the fish store people about how to care for fish/tanks etc, who else to trust, right? They keep them and sell them, they should know!

But one of the first things we end up learning is that there's a lot of misinformation out there, and many fish stores (especially the big chain ones) will hire people who really don't know much about fish, but don't want to admit it. They also want to sell you the fish. So many people walk into pets at home or whatever and want a tank and fish on the same day. They won't sell them the fish then, tell them to go away for a week and "let the tank run" but don't even tell them to look up how to cycle a tank. A box of water sitting there is just a box of water. It doesn't magically grow the bacteria needed for a cycle without a food source for the bacteria in there, and it's a bit too complicated for them to bother explaining. If they say "come back next week, and the week after, and the week after to get whatever fish you want" then most people are willing to wait a week. If they say it could take a month or more to cycle, and not to add fish until then, plus do these water tests - they know that most people will leave the store and go buy fish elsewhere. Not to mention that even if your fish die, that just makes you a repeat customer.

Most local fish stores (LFS) that are privately owned are run by the owner, who is more likely to be a hobbyist and to be honest. But not always. Don't add any more fish to the tank, it sounds pretty stocked already, and you might need to return at least one of the plecos if you can't find space for a larger tank, I'm sorry. Are they still pretty small right now? It might be possible to wait a month or two for the kids to lose some interest (maybe) so they're not devastated by losing one. Plecos can get fairly big, and they eat a lot and poop tons, which can be a problem in a smaller tank with a lot of other fish, because poop turns to ammonia. But if they're still small (photos?) and you keep on top of water changes, it might be okay for a short while, or to keep one of them maybe, depending on the stocking levels overall and how often you'll have time to do water changes with a toddler on your hands :)


I thought this would be a relaxing hobby

This was the biggest we have space for. Every other surface it hogged by the toddler.
It can be a relaxing hobby, I promise! But the learning curve is very steep at first, and you'll probably want rid of it at some points. But if you're staring at for an hour a day, you've probably already got the bug and want to keep going! You're doing the right things to care for the fish and sought help when one became ill, so you're doing alright. This size tank doesn't work for some fish, like angels, but you can make a lovely tank out of a 15 gallon. I have two the same size.

I know a great source for buying some stem plants cheaply on Amazon. No one I know, I promise, lmao. But they're much cheaper to buy some cuttings from than a store, about £13-14 for 50 stems and I've used them twice, arrived quickly and plants were healthy, and instantly filled out my tank. Planning to use them again when I set up the next one.
Just checked, they also do 25 stems for a tenner: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07HVRS99R/?tag=

I'm sure that last time I got some, the leaflet said that they can't promise specific plants, but they will try to work with you if you want a specific type. So you could try emailing them and asking if they can just do fast growing, easy stem plants.
 
Ah I'd say it's cool to have fish grow up in your tank. But I'm actually very nervous about my platies releasing fry. Both arrived pregnant, one is quite big. I actually asked not to take her but shop were not insistent. He said the fry won't survive but I'd rather not see that
 
Ah I'd say it's cool to have fish grow up in your tank. But I'm actually very nervous about my platies releasing fry. Both arrived pregnant, one is quite big. I actually asked not to take her but shop were not insistent. He said the fry won't survive but I'd rather not see that
I bought two platy m/f. I have them in my shrimp tank as a QT and the next day I was vacuuming the tank and noticed fry. I checked the dirty water and there were 6, I caught 2 more and put them in a fry net. The adults seem to leave the other fry still loose in the tank alone for several days. Later I saw the male chasing a fry so I moved them to my guppy tank. I currently have 13 platy fry in my 29 gallon QT tank. I would keep the platy well fed and they may leave the fry alone. Have lots of hiding places for them. You can always catch the fry and put them in a fry net but do not put the mother in one for she will eat the fry it such a close area.
 
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I'd say the Plecos are each 3 inches. I'm useless with measurements I think once the water is under control I'll return them. I'm pretty annoyed they sold me fish unsuitable for the tank. The two fish shops are small independent shops & I've been going to the one shop the whole time.

But I'm learning & reading up. So yeah some plants tomorrow & I'll check out that Amazon link too. Usually get deliveries from UK in 2/3 days.

I won't add more fish and just work on the cycle, adding plants & keeping everyone alive

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I bought two platy m/f. I have them in my shrimp tank as a QT and the next day I was vacuuming the tank and noticed fry. I checked the dirty water and there were 6, I caught 2 more and put them in a fry net. The adults seem to leave the other fry still loose in the tank alone for several days. Later I saw the male chasing a fry so I moved them to my guppy tank. I currently have 13 platy fry in my 29 gallon QT tank. I would keep the platy well feed and they may leave the fry alone. Have lots of hiding places for them. You can always catch the fry and put them in a fry net but do not put the mother in one for she will eat the fry it such a close area.

I don't think my tank is set up for more fish. If it's 58 litres and has 12 fish.

Molly, 3 platys, 6 neon tetra, 2 Plecos.
 
I had this problem several times with different types of fish populating the tank with their young. I would give away as many as I could when they were big enough and take the rest to the LFS. They would give my fish food in return.
 
I'll check tomorrow of they'll take fry back for when the platies eh deliver their ones.

I had a tank as a young teen, but 24 years ago. I remember my mom washing the tank and guppy's fry hopped out onto the kitchen floor

Just look on the forum at tank set ups with plants & they're beautiful.
 
@AdoraBelle Dearheart

I'd say the Plecos are each 3 inches. I'm useless with measurements I think once the water is under control I'll return them. I'm pretty annoyed they sold me fish unsuitable for the tank. The two fish shops are small independent shops & I've been going to the one shop the whole time.

But I'm learning & reading up. So yeah some plants tomorrow & I'll check out that Amazon link too. Usually get deliveries from UK in 2/3 days.

I won't add more fish and just work on the cycle, adding plants & keeping everyone alive

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Very pretty pleco. I don't know pleco species well, but it at least doesn't look like a common pleco, which grow to 1-2 FEET as adults, but still often wind up sold to beginners in some fish shops, sadly. @Retired Viking , do you know who might be able to ID the pleco species? I don't know who is into plecos here yet.

I'm pretty angry on your behalf that that shop sold you all these fish and told you a load of rubbish with it too. They just gave you a nightmare that killed a fish and could have easily killed all of them had you not sought online help and done your own research. Then you have a trauma for your little one. The shop person is a *swearing censored*.

If you want to keep fry, they normally need another tank. They might get eaten by adults in the same tank, which some kids (and adults) find upsetting, and if too many survive, you soon have an overstocked tank and polluted water as the fry get bigger. Each female molly and platy can easily churn out 30 fry per month, and numbers even up to 200 per batch have been recorded. My five female guppies produced 200 plus fry in the space of a year. He could have just as easily steered you away from that and sold you 4-5 male guppies or male platies instead.
 
Just curious, is there a reason you're using the easy balance chemicals?
 
Oh! And female livebearers (mollies/platies/guppies/swordtails) can store sperm from males for a year or more. So removing the males doesn't solve the problem, and as you saw, females are often gravid when you get them from the store. I'm sorry you've had such a rough intro to the hobby, it didn't need to be this stressful.
 

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