Shrimp Molting Problem

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I had gotten a skunk cleaner because my royal grama turned up with white spots without any explaination. About two hours after introduction into the tank, the fish started getting cleaned and all was well. I'd had the shrimp since late Nov. and it was doing great, eating well, happily cleaning everything, etc. The acclimation was a good 3hrs driplined at a stable temp, so I know nothing went wrong there. However, it started getting ready to shed this week, and as soon as it did try to shed I could see something wasn't right. The old exoskeleton was very thick compared to what I remember my old CBS having with each molt. I tried to help the poor guy out a bit by getting him into a safe place (my Nassarius had detected the unusual behavior and came running to the scene), but couldn't do anything else without risking hurting the shrimp. The old skin wouldn't open enough, and he got entombed. :sad: I havn't lost a shrimp or any other marine invert to this before. I've seen limbs get stuck in exoskeletons, but never the whole animal.

I checked the water, I've got ammonia/nitrite/nitrate=0, pH=8.2, kH=~12, and 1.025sg. I don't have calc or phosphate readings on the tank as of recently, but calc not so long ago was around 400ppm and has been that way for a long time. I've never seen any molting issues from the large-ish hermit I have in the tank. I've read that too much iodine will cause the thickening of the exoskeleton, but I don't add iodine. There's also likely so much macro in the tank that my phosphate won't be an issue either - there was none detectable last time I had it tested.

Given that I only had this shrimp for a short time, is there likely to be something up with the water that is making it unsuitable for shrimp, or is this more likely to be a problem that the shrimp had when I got it? I'm not sure how long it takes for the exoskeleton to get too thick like that, since I've never seen it happen before.
 
Huh, well from what little I know about shrimp moulting I've learned that every now and again this kind of thing happens. Nobody really knows why but sometimes they just have a bad one and it ends like this :(. My guess is that it was a condition that existed before you got the shrimp
 
Bummer :( Well, I'm going to let the tank sit as-is for a while (just in case) to make sure nothing else funny happens. It seems like everything's fine currently, all other inverts doing what they usually do. I feel like I probably aught to put a replacement in given how quickly and unexpectedly the royal gramma showed up with things in need of cleaning. I'd been worried about that for a while since that fish is in and out of the rocks so much and manages to get scraped up periodically.
 
Seems all the stores are skunk cleaner-less at the moment (and pH meter solution-less...darned holiday rushes :X ). I know for certain that another skunk cleaner would do the job, but I'm also looking at fire shrimp, since those are always around over here. Are the two pretty much the same efficiency-wise? I'd like to wait until another skunk cleaner comes along, but since fire shrimp seem more common in my area, I'd like to have a backup option if my fish turns up spotty again before skunk cleaners are available.
 
I dont know about the effeciency but fire shrimp are a lot brighter and more vibrant than skunk cleaners. I would get one of each! ;)
 
Sadly I'm now doubting that it was a problem the shrimp had before I got it. I just tried to acclimate a 2nd shrimp and it spazzed out 1hr into the acclimation - which was at 1-2 drops into the bag per second, my usual setup for all acclimations. I immediately stopped the dripline and have it in a tub with an air bubbler, but I doubt it's going to last another 10 minutes at the rate it's declining. Unless there was a problem with the tank water, I can't see why the problems would have happened midway during acclimation vs. at the end or before it started. The shrimp seemed perfectly healthy at the store and right up until that point during acclimation. I've checked the tank water, all is as it was before so no change there. I had swapped a snail between tanks into that tank with a small acclimation period earlier this week and there were no problems then. If it is something in the water, it's something that doesn't affect other crustaceans or gastropods. The tank seems completely healthy except for these two recent events. I'm going to call it quits on shrimp after this since, if I can't determine the cause of the problem, I won't know whether the tank is ok or not and don't want to kill another one.
 
Same as in the first post, ammonia/nitrite/nitrate=0, pH=8.2 on the dot, kH=12, and 1.025sg. I don't have a new calc reading (when I had it checked after the last event it was ~400 again), I'll only get another one of those when I take a sample to be checked at the LFS today in case any of my kits are off. What gets me is that there are several things that would react to pretty much any water quality problems that have so far done nothing but eat and generally be happy: a cowrie, opisthobranch, mine urchin, large hermit, and a bunch of snails. I also have breeding Ceriths in there.
 

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