Power Compact Vs T5 And Mh

Lynden

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Scientifically speaking, what advantages would MH and T5 have over PCs? Assuming that they each are around, say, 260 watts.

I personally dont like MH; they are big, hard to install, tremendously expensive, and very, very dangerous if not setup correctly. So far, I prefer PC ( mostly cause I have one :look: ) If you choose to add your opinion, factor in different animal's preferences, please! I must know this!

-Lynden
 
it honestly depends on what you want in the tank. . . .

Take me for example - I want to dip my toes in sps, lps, and softies (I don't think I'll have more 5 fishies in my 55gal tank) :good:
 
I want Anemones, Leathers, perhaps Gorgornians, and anything else that may live under my lighting.
 
Gorgonians are non-photosynthetic, so dont need MH's. PCs all but limit you in choice of future livestock. Ive mentioned a couple of times to people setting up, once your comfortable with keeping marine, you'll wanna keep different species, including SPS and clams, lps and other softies.

MH are large, can be bought cheap enough in comparison with other equipment you buy for your se-ups (although to some may be expensive), and allow much more diversity, and allow you to expand your species as you get on in the hobby. The only issue is heat. But that can be dealt with via an extractor fan, or a well designed hood with computer fans. I dont get the "very dangerous" part though. Any electrics plus SW set-ups (including FW) is extremly dangerous. Get a qualified electrician to wire you units if you go DIY. (Its illegal here in aus to DIY any wiring). If your after cheap MH units, dont buy a pendant type system, if your into DIY, make yourself a hood, and buy a couple of Shopfitters, and then buy the right bulb seperate. They work out cheaper, and do the same job.

T5's are the same price. They have a greater impact than PC's, and people have kept SPS and clams with them, you just need 4 or more really. They have the added benefit of not overheating.

When you see a tank with PC lighting, and sit it next to a setup with MH bulbs, there is a clear difference in the colour, and intensity, making the water "sparkle" and IMO, MH's give the better look, although thats up to the individual.
 
One important thing to understand is the requirement of the corals and livestock you want to keep. Where are they found (at what depth) will determine how strong of lighting you will need. As will the depth of your tank.

Also since t5 lighting seems to be a new fad on this site. To truly get any benefit from t5 lighting each individual bulb needs its own reflector, if this isn't the case than the t5 light is no more powerful than a PC light.
 
I just thought I would throw in my 10p worth. Sukie was spot on when she said that it is dependant on what you want to keep in the tank.

Anemones and leathers have very different requirements. You might be best off researching them and deciding which you would prefer, and provide the appropriate conditions for the choice you settle on.

However, in general, I prefer MHs by far. And that's not just because I sell them... honest :hey: .

I'm not a bit fan of PCs at all.. .sure, they are compact, but I haven't found that the colours stimulate growth all that well, and there is a lot of wasted light due to restrike.

Not sure if I agree that MH is more inherently dangerous, either. I'd rather have one or two bulbs/ballasts above my tank than the usual busy array of fluorescent tubes.

That said T5s are good - an excellent choice. But I just can't live without the nice shimmering effect you get from MHs. Nothing else gets close....

John
 
Having had 0 fires from my MH bulbs and one from T5 I would say that T5 is more dangerous than MH, especially as I am not alone in having the encaps start burning.

If you want chepaer (and safer and cooler) MH then get a shop unit where you can fit the ballast in the cabinet and only have the reflector and the bulb over the tank. So long as the ballast is up to the bulb you are fine.
 
The lighting debate is a tough one for sure and one which I follow a lot out of personal interest. I've met people using a VARIETY of bulbs both individually and in combination. MH, PC, T5, and even (at least on this side of the pond) VHO. Around my reef club the most common sight is 175 or 250w MH's (usually 10-14k) to cover most of the tank and then actinic flourescent (PC/T5/VHO) supplimentation. I've also seen plenty of people using PC only. Some with low demanding corals, and two individuals with successful SPS tanks and PCs. I've also spoken at length with one member of my local club who keeps a 72gal bowfront SPS tank with 6 T5 lamps... He's got 2 6700k, 2 10k, and 2 20k bulbs arranged with 6700s on the edges, and 20ks in the center.

I guess as far as what to keep goes, you can't go wrong with MH w/ actinic flouescent supplimentation. Pretty much a no-brainer. HOWEVER, not everyone can afford either the startup cost, OR more importantly the larger electric bill when running a setup like that. Keep in mind, a single 175W MH will draw well over 200W of electrical power. Combine that with say two VHO suppliments and you're talkin 500W+ of electrical power used. Thats an extra 12 KWH per day or 360 KWH per month. That adds up fast depending on how much a KWH costs in your area.

Keep that in mind when choosing your lighting :)
 
500W of lighting would only be 12kwhours a day if you have your lights on 24/7, which is not going to be a great way of doing things.

Also, on larger systems, if one avoids MH, the sheer number of bulbs means that when it comes to changing bulb time, you can end up paying a lot of money for numerous VHO or HO bulbs whereas you would only be looking at one or two MH.

Also, you tend not to get the punch into the deeper water with flourescants tht you get with MH.

My personal feeling is that smaller tanks can get by with PC or T5 (or VHO if you can get them) but once you are into larger systems (18"+ deep), MH is the best way to go.
 
Heh, open mouth insert foot, forgot about that whole light cycle thing :D. Make that more like 120 KWH extra per month. :blush:
 
I see. Thanks for the info. :)

Well, my plan is now to keep Zooanthids, leathers, and whatever near the bottom, and things that need more light at or near the top.

-Lynden
 

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