Possible pregnant molly

[Beth_obrien2424]

So, my molly just had her fry about 2 days ago.
the thing is, she is now squared off again and I’m not sure why. I wouldn’t think it would be possible for her to have babies again already?
so, what is it?

 

[Salty&Onion]

Impossible for her to get pregnant after 2 days. My molly is also squared off, but no fry, although in my case this is a possible illness. Not like yours is sick or anything, I'm just saying.

 

[Beth_obrien2424]

Impossible for her to get pregnant after 2 days. My molly is also squared off, but no fry, although in my case this is a possible illness. Not like yours is sick or anything, I'm just saying.

She only had 8 fry and so I was wondering if it was possible for them to have half and hold on to the rest to birth at a later date?
I was told that 8 was not many at all for a molly

 

[Salty&Onion]

Some will always get eaten, so she must have had more than this. If the mother is stressed she can get a hold of them and delay the delivery. Did you put her to a breeder box?

 

[Beth_obrien2424]

Some will always get eaten, so she must have had more than this. If the mother is stressed she can get a hold of them and delay the delivery. Did you put her to a breeder box?

I didn’t use a breeder box but I moved her into another tank as I wanted to save the fry. She did not seemed stressed in the second tank. She started having fry in the morning and it took all day for her to have 8. I saw her have them all. And then she was finished and was trying to eat those fry, so I moved her back to the community tank. Now, after 2 days she has squared off again

 

[Salty&Onion]

I would not put her into another either, still stress.

 

[Beth_obrien2424]

I would not put her into another either, still stress.

It was purely because they would not stand a chance in the community tank, no matter how many hiding places I put in. The fish in there are too adventurous and curious and would find them easily. From now on I’m just going to have to let nature take its course, I just wanted at least one batch to survive.
so, my question is, do you think she might still have fry in her and that’s why she’s squared off?

 

[Salty&Onion]

do you think she might still have fry in her and that’s why she’s squared off?

I doubt. My molly is squared off as well and she's not pregnant.

 

[Colin_T]

So, my molly just had her fry about 2 days ago.
the thing is, she is now squared off again and I’m not sure why. I wouldn’t think it would be possible for her to have babies again already?
so, what is it?

Pictures of the fish?
What does the fish's poop look like?

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so, what is it?​

Intestinal worms, internal bacterial infection, she didn't drop all the fry and still has some in her.

If the fish is eating well and doesn't have scales sticking out around the belly, it is either worms or unborn babies.
If the fish is no longer eating then it is probably an internal bacterial infection.

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To stop them eating their young, feed the adults 3-5 times a day with a variety of food so they are full. Fish that are full will be less inclined to eating their young.

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You shouldn't move female fish that are pregnant/ gravid or that have given birth in the last week because you can injure them internally. If you have to move them during this time, catch them in a net, then put a small plastic container under the net and lift the fish and net up in the container of water.

 

[Beth_obrien2424]

Pictures of the fish?
What does the fish's poop look like?

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so, what is it?
Intestinal worms, internal bacterial infection, she didn't drop all the fry and still has some in her.

If the fish is eating well and doesn't have scales sticking out around the belly, it is either worms or unborn babies.
If the fish is no longer eating then it is probably an internal bacterial infection.

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To stop them eating their young, feed the adults 3-5 times a day with a variety of food so they are full. Fish that are full will be less inclined to eating their young.

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You shouldn't move female fish that are pregnant/ gravid or that have given birth in the last week because you can injure them internally. If you have to move them during this time, catch them in a net, then put a small plastic container under the net and lift the fish and net up in the container of water.

She is still eating fine and acting like her normal self. Before she had her fry her poop was white but it went back to normal after she had them. She doesn’t look any different or weird, other than her squared off underside. She also still has the white dot on her bum, though it has shrank again and is not open like it was when she was birthing.

 

[Colin_T]

probably full of worms

 

[Beth_obrien2424]

probably full of worms

No idea where she would pick up worms from though. Are they contagious? What do I do

 

[Colin_T]

Most livebearers coming out of Asia are riddled with intestinal worms & gill flukes because of where they are kept and what they are fed on (sewerage ponds).

If one fish has worms, they will all have worms.

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You can use Praziquantel to treat tapeworm and gill flukes. And Levamisole to treat thread/ round worms. If you can't find these medications, look for Flubendazole, which treats both lots of worms.

In the UK look for:
eSHa gdex contains praziquantel that treats tapeworm and gill flukes.
eSHa-ndx contains levamisole and treats thread/ round worms.

Remove carbon from filters before treatment and increase aeration/ surface turbulence to maximise oxygen levels in the water.

You treat the fish once a week for 4 weeks. The first treatment will kill any worms in the fish. The second, third and forth treatments kill any baby worms that hatch from eggs inside the fish's digestive tract.

Treat every fish tank in the house at the same time to prevent cross contamination.

You do a 75% water change and complete gravel clean 24-48 hours after treatment. Clean the filter 24 hours after treatment too.

Do not use the 2 medications together. If you want to treat both medications in a short space of time, use Praziquantel on day one. Do a 75% water change and gravel clean the substrate on day 2 & 3. Treat the tank with Levamisole on day 4 and do a 75% water change and gravel clean on day 5, 6 & 7 and then start with Praziquantel again on day 8.

The water changes will remove most of the medication so you don't overdose the fish the next time you treat them. The gravel cleaning will suck out any worms and eggs that have been expelled by the fish. Repeating the treatment for 3-4 doses at weekly intervals will kill any worms that hatch from eggs. At the end of the treatment you will have healthier fish.

 

[Essjay]

Colin, just for your information I have discovered another med in the UK which contains flubendazole (another member mentioned it yesterday so I looked at the manufacturer's website)

NT Labs Anti-fluke and Wormer contains flubendazole, and unlike wormer plus (a powder intended for large discus tanks) it is a liquid which makes it easier to dose in smaller tanks.

One to add to your list.

 

[seangee]

Colin, just for your information I have discovered another med in the UK which contains flubendazole (another member mentioned it yesterday so I looked at the manufacturer's website)

NT Labs Anti-fluke and Wormer contains flubendazole, and unlike wormer plus (a powder intended for large discus tanks) it is a liquid which makes it easier to dose in smaller tanks.

A word of caution to anyone rushing out to buy either of these or use as a prophylactic treatment.
In addition to worms and gill flukes it also kills shrimps and snails.