Pics Of My Fist Tank And Fish

[azzman]

3ft 150l
2 gouramis
2 silver sharks
2 electric yellows (now returned to shop after advise)
2 yo yo loaches
5 neons

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

I'm sorry to have to inform you, but these fish really aren't compatible.

Silver Sharks will grow upto 12 inches sometimes even more! You have a tank that isn't big enough for silver sharks please re home them.
Electic Yellows are African Cichlids and should not be mixed with peaceful community fish. They are much more aggresive and need somewhat diffrent needs then them.

pretty sure those Gourami are either Opaline Gourmi or Moonlight Gourami both grow to be about 6 inches, they will get more territorial also and may need to be re-homed. How many gallons is the tank?

 

[azzman]

yea i know all that, the yellows are very placid so far, i reckon the gouramis are the only trouble,
and the sharks are still only 2-2.5 inches so thell be right for a while, the LFS has said thell
take them back once there bigger.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

yea i know all that, the yellows are very placid so far, i reckon the gouramis are the only trouble,
and the sharks are still only 2-2.5 inches so thell be right for a while, the LFS has said thell
take them back once there bigger.

Okay but I still don't think the tank is best suited for those African Cichlids. Watch out for the sharks also, they won't grow much in a tank like that and soon enough they will get stunted! For most fish kept under the right conditions they can double in size per month!

Also, I can see that you are feeding them vaction feeder blocks. Not a good thing to do. I doubt these hold much nutrition for the fish, but not only that they are plaster based, and muck up the water quality!

 

[azzman]

well im still learning, cant be an expert straight away, ill see how they all go
together and then make changes, cant see the point in swapping fish now when
the sharks look tiny in the tank.


Also, I can see that you are feeding them vaction feeder blocks. Not a good thing to do. I doubt these hold much nutrition for the fish, but not only that they are plaster based, and muck up the water quality!
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yea i only chucked 1 in to see what they did, was just curious, and its kept them all
occupied for ages. I do feed them with normal food so dont panic haha.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

well im still learning, cant be an expert straight away, ill see how they all go
together and then make changes, cant see the point in swapping fish now when
the sharks look tiny in the tank.

I'm not saying you have to be an expert, just giving you some advise to follow if you are want the best for your fish...
And to be honest with you, I doubt you will even see the sharks grow. I heard once from a very wise member to sit in the fron seat of a car and adjust the seat so it is as far forward as it can go. That is what it feels like being a fish that needs a bigger tank, but is stuck in a small one.

Ahh okay, just giving you a heads-up on what they can do to the water!

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

I also recommend getting a few more decorations for the Cichlids if you are going to keep them although I highly advise you not to. River Rocks look nice, just make sure you aren't adding anything with Calcium in it.

 

[azzman]

I also recommend getting a few more decorations for the Cichlids if you are going to keep them although I highly advise you not to. River Rocks look nice, just make sure you aren't adding anything with Calcium in it.

the gravel in the bottom is calcium carbonate, huge no no i spose?

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

I also recommend getting a few more decorations for the Cichlids if you are going to keep them although I highly advise you not to. River Rocks look nice, just make sure you aren't adding anything with Calcium in it.

the gravel in the bottom is calcium carbonate, huge no no i spose?

With community fish that won't due, but with Cichlids it's okay. Please just try to re-do the tank. Sooner or later you are going to run into big problems and i'm not just saying that. What is your Ph? I think this is commonly used as a buffer.

 

[azzman]

the gravel in the bottom is calcium carbonate, huge no no i spose?
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With community fish that won't due, but with Cichlids it's okay. Please just try to re-do the tank. Sooner or later you are going to run into big problems and i'm not just saying that. What is your Ph? I think this is commonly used as a buffer.
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the ph is about 7, it has been since day 1.

i was given the tank with the gravel already in it, it was a community tank beforhand with angels and
silver dollas in it as well as as others.

the tanks been stocked as it is for about 2 weeks. what dramas should i expect down the line?

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

I can't beleive that those neons have made it so far. The Cichlids will rule the tank shorty, until you take them out, stuff will most likely start to trun up dead. The gouramis will start to grow and eat the Neons, both the Gourami and Cichlids will kill the soon-to-be stunted balas, along with the yo yo loaches. After that the cichlids will turn on the Gourami and kill them. The cichlids will then possibly start to fight and end up killing the other (maily becuase the space won't be big enough for two right sized territories). You will end up with one fish left in that tank, I can promise you that. Ohh and by the way please don't take any information from the person who gave you the tank, that stock is far worse then the one you have now I feel so badly for the fish living in that tank! Try to take the Ph from the tap and see what it reads, I bet you it will be less then 7.0! Please just start over, check my new article I wrote in the "New to Hobby" section intitled "Brief Guide To Fish Keeping" and see if you can get some information out of there. Take all the fish back to the LFS, make a new fish list and change the substrate. Make sure to run the fish list by us before buying them. Actually, you may keep the neons everything else will get too big and too agressive.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Ooh, and forgot to ask, did you cycle the tank then?

 

[azzman]

Ooh, and forgot to ask, did you cycle the tank then?

yea tank cycled, all levels sweet.

here are some quotes from a electric yellow forum,

They are one of the more docile mbuna (rockdwelling) species, and are an ideal fish, for novice cichlid keepers. They can be kept in reasonable sized tanks (110 liters or larger),

they can go with normal community fish in a large enough tank

I have a breeding pair of Electric Yellows in a 245 L community tank. The male is 10 cm and the female is 8 cm in length. The other fish included an assortment of community fish such as Tetras, Rainbows, Rams, Catfish and so on. The Electric Yellows get along all with these tank mates,.




so as u can see im a little confused now, i think im gunna keep it as it is for now, but i promice ill fix it if it all comes
to a head. My girlfriend loves the yellows so am reluctant to loose them unless i have to.

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

I took this from a the fish profile here on the forum "These cichlids make excellent tankmates for most mildly and moderately aggressive mbuna, aulonocara, and haplichromines from lake Malawi."

I don't belive in that other stuff that other forum said, although I belive they may be one of the more peaceful mbuna. I really don't think any African cichlids should be kept in a community tank that small, even Kribs have been known to kill community fish and they are supposedly quite peaceful. What is the size of the tank? Please try to get some more diffrent things to add into the tank, they need a bunch of diffrent hiding places, and the Yoyo's may also benefit from it. Try to post the stocking list in the African/Old world cichlid section and see what they say, I am by no means an african cichlid expert.

 

[azzman]

I took this from a the fish profile here on the forum "These cichlids make excellent tankmates for most mildly and moderately aggressive mbuna, aulonocara, and haplichromines from lake Malawi."

I don't belive in that other stuff that other forum said, although I belive they may be one of the more peaceful mbuna. I really don't think any African cichlids should be kept in a community tank that small, even Kribs have been known to kill community fish and they are supposedly quite peaceful. Did it tell you the minimum size tank for the fish? I hear 30g minimum, and I don't think thats 30g, whats is it exactly? Please try to get some more diffrent things to add into the tank, they need a bunch of diffrent hiding places, and the Yoyo's may also benefit from it.

its a 200 litre tank, not sure how many gallons, u.s is different then uk.

maybe our australian bred fish are more chilled out than other countries? haha,
i want to think positive.