PETA kills - the truth uncovered

[gaya]

oh it's a peta source. just go to peta.org. i figured that was assumed.

 

[gaya]

Gaya,you're being quite rude and condescending....

thanks for contributing your overbearing opinions.

sorry you feel that way blue.

 

[BlueIce]

you call people rotten parents, imply that we are stupid and can't put two and two together...etc etc...it's rude.


and i was not asking for some print off from peta..i am asking for PROOF... peta as we all know likes to distort the facts and the agenda.

 

[gaya]

What I’m saying is that it doesn’t make sense for an organization that is based in animal welfare to secretly harbor a desire to kill animals needlessly. Your source is factory farms. The organizations that comprise the center for consumer freedom are the very corporations that abuse animals and the one’s PETA has been targeting. They are retaliating and have the monies to funnel a campaign. Far more money than PETA will ever have. All I’m asking you to do is think about it. The majority of information on the web is sourcing this organization.
What do you want proof of? Proof that their hearts are rooted in the destruction of animals? When you look at the numbers of animals PETA took in compared to other shelters in the area it’s almost doubled. They are more inclined to take in feral animals and those who are less likely to be adopted. I don’t get what’s so hard to understand.

 

[BlueIce]

It makes every bit as much sense as does their scare tactics,violence,targeting and abuse of children...etc etc etc...

 

[gaya]

I guess you just don’t understand my point. You don’t have to agree with PETA’s tactics towards children but you don’t have to be another pawn for the industry either.

 

[BlueIce]

I'm not a pawn...for the industry...OR for PETA....as you seem to be.

If one doesn't agree with the tactics,then one should not support...as you do.
I have read many many many articles on both sides,and IMO (which isn't a spur of the moment choice,but a well reasoned ,thought out choice)It doesn't matter to me what good PETA accomplishes ...there is to much wrong in that org for me to condone/support them in any way...

I don't believe in abortion either ,but would never for a moment consider sitting in on a protest with any group that has a history of violence and scare tactics.


While I agree that PETA has accomplished some good ,the bad bears just as much weight with me...as does the fanatical lengths they will take to make a point or get their way...
At what point do you step back and think for yourself? Do you honestly want a bunch of nuts deciding if you can or should be able to own a pet ,etc etc etc...

You want to do some good for animals...? Stand on your own two feet and do some..stop following a bunch of whack jobs who don't mind targeting and abusing children and the rights of others...who don't mind being violent to make a point...

 

[gaya]

I have been stating though out this thread what I do and don’t agree with PETA. You have not stated anything about the center for consumer freedom and I’m pretty sure I know why, because really you don’t know anything about them. If you did you’d be as fired up as you are with PETA. If anything my whole premise has been based on the evils of the center for consumer freedom not PETA. CCF is using the shelter issue to fight an organization that could potentially cut their profits. That’s the only reason they are campaigning. They are not campaigning to educate you nor do they care about you and your family or animals in the least. You are doing exactly what they want and falling for their crap. I’m in no way a pawn for PETA. I agree with animal testing if under the right conditions, PETA doesn’t. If it will save a human life I support it. If you belong to an organization of parents fighting against PETA’s tactics with children I would support you 100%. I support people who eat organic meat, PETA doesn’t. I completely think for myself on the issues because I am informed. You are obviously in the dark about your source and I wish you would check out the goings on of the industry.

 

[whip]

Don't forget that PETA told Roy he got what he deserved when Montacore the tiger attacked him. They are an extremist group that i want no part of.

 

[mm_simb]

Don't forget that PETA told Roy he got what he deserved when Montacore the tiger attacked him. They are an extremist group that i want no part of.

I'm sorry this is off topic,
If you are talking about what happened to that guy in the army (or marines, navy, etc.) when he went into the cage of a lion when everyone told him not to do it but did it anyways because he was drunk, then I'd have to agree with PETA (if they trully did say that). He deserved what he got and the lion got what he didn't deserve. It's not the fault of the lion that some idiots went into the zoo when they shouldn't have been there. They shouldn't even be allowed to drink in excess over there. What if something would've happened (as in an attack)? I'm sure a bunch of drunk soldiers would do nothing to protect their people or themselves and all we would hear in the news would be stories of how they fought for their country.

Gaya...I understand what you're saying.
I volunteer at a shelter and since they get so many animals in they do euthanize them if they dont have that much room. I understand what PETA does in their shelter because if you think about it, they probably get a lot more animals in that your regular city shelter because mostly everybody knows shelters. People say they can run a no-kill shelter but there are set-backs to that also. A no-kill shelter only has a number of animals they can accept. If that happened people would be complaining about how they don't accept the animals that are in need. Therefore, with shelters, there really isnt a right thing to do because people are going to be against it eitherway.

 

[cometcattle]

Don't forget that PETA told Roy he got what he deserved when Montacore the tiger attacked him. They are an extremist group that i want no part of.

I'm sorry this is off topic,
If you are talking about what happened to that guy in the army (or marines, navy, etc.) when he went into the cage of a lion when everyone told him not to do it but did it anyways because he was drunk, then I'd have to agree with PETA (if they trully did say that). He deserved what he got and the lion got what he didn't deserve. It's not the fault of the lion that some idiots went into the zoo when they shouldn't have been there. They shouldn't even be allowed to drink in excess over there. What if something would've happened (as in an attack)? I'm sure a bunch of drunk soldiers would do nothing to protect their people or themselves and all we would hear in the news would be stories of how they fought for their country.

I think whip is refering to this:

http/www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/04/roy.attacked/

 

[gaya]

This is such a coincidence and I didn’t get the full story but as I was getting ready to leave a couple of ours ago I was listening to the news and heard a story about workers on strike in Taiwan. I think it was something like 10,000 McDonalds happy meal toy makers went on strike and McD’s gave in. Instead of the workers working 7 days a week, 16 hours a day for 16 cents/hr, they will now only work 6 days a week, 10 hours a day for 17.5 cents an hour and they are now allowed two bathroom breaks. There are no child labor laws in many of the countries that McD’s employs and children work in these factories as well. That sounds like child abuse to me. Bizarre that this two-minute news clipped aired during this debate. Perfect timing. My point in case it’s not obvious is that the source of the PETA story takes child abuse to a whole new level.

McD's is the center for consumer freedom along with a ton of other nasty corporations that we support as a country.

 

[gaya]

Gaya...I understand what you're saying.
I volunteer at a shelter and since they get so many animals in they do euthanize them if they dont have that much room. I understand what PETA does in their shelter because if you think about it, they probably get a lot more animals in that your regular city shelter because mostly everybody knows shelters. People say they can run a no-kill shelter but there are set-backs to that also. A no-kill shelter only has a number of animals they can accept. If that happened people would be complaining about how they don't accept the animals that are in need. Therefore, with shelters, there really isnt a right thing to do because people are going to be against it eitherway.

well put

 

[BlueIce]

Could you PLEASE keep the McDonald's bs out of the thread? This is NOT about your war against the industry...Start your own thread and rant and rave all you want about the industry conning us all.



This thread is about PETA.It is about an UNUSUALLY high number of KILLS and the REASON behind it.



Stop shoving your food down other people's throats...this is no better then religious freaks knocking on the door endlessly at this point.

 

[gaya]

Could you PLEASE keep the McDonald's bs out of the thread? This is NOT about your war against the industry...Start your own thread and rant and rave all you want about the industry conning us all.



This thread is about PETA.It is about an UNUSUALLY high number of KILLS and the REASON behind it.



Stop shoving your food down other people's throats...this is no better then religious freaks knocking on the door endlessly at this point.

I've heard you in many fish threads confronting people on spreading false information about fish and you were right to do so. You are spreading false information and you are getting called on it. You didn't bother to find out why these animals were being put down, you obviously don't care why, you were just looking for a reason to complain about an organization you don't like and that's a lame way of going about it.

edit: how can i leave McDonald's out of this thread when you are quoting them? duh