Overstocking - Flex 15

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Hi All,

I have a Fluval Flex 15 and just curious if my tank is overstocked or not.

Currently, i have 1 halfmoon plankat betta, 10 Neon Green Rasboras and 3 small nerite snails.

Not sure if i've overstocked too much or if this is ok. Would appreciate your opinions.

Thanks for the help.

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It's that a 15 gallons tank?
If yes, then it's perfectly fine.
My only worry is that your Betta might attack your small Neon Green Rasboras which is only 2cm in size.
 
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It's that a 15 gallons tank?
If yes, then it's perfectly fine.
I'm just worried that your Betta might attack your small Neon Green Rasboras.

Yes, its a 15 gallon tank. My betta is pretty chill. When i first added the rasboras to the tank my betta was chasing them around but, they are way to fast for him. Seem to do well so far.. I guess, time will tell.

Can i add more rasboras to have a larger schooling or should i just leave as is for now?
 
Yes, you can add another 5-10 without any problem.
Just don't let the Betta catch them...
Actually you should keep them with shrimps rather than Betta.
Betta is more suitable to be alone or some bigger fish.
 
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My bettas are with other fish too. Hopefully your betta works out in your tank, just keep an eye on them if they are staying that way. I wouldn't get more rasbora. Best not to have too much movement to stress out a betta.
 
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Thanks everyone for your help. I'll keep it this way for now and not going to add anymore fish for the time being. Betta looks fine right now and is swimming normally.. I'll keep an eye on it. When i was doing my research a lot of people said tetras/rasbora's are good mates for Betta.. I should have come here first.

Again, thanks..
 
When i was doing my research a lot of people said tetras/rasbora's are good mates for Betta.. I should have come here first.
Depending on the betta, that can be the case. My bettas have been with rasbora their whole lives.
 
This topic comes up quite often, and many still do not grasp the issue. Not casting aspersion on anyone, I will just try to explain the reality.

Male Bettas are not community fish. They should always be on their own in a suitable tank. The reason this is fact has to do with the inherent normal and natural make-up of the fish. The DNA. Ichthyologists who study a species are able to discern its inherent behaviours. We take these to be the way the individual fish in the particular species will behave, interact, respond to external stimuli, respond to the environment, etc. It describes the species, in effect, so far as these aspects of its physiology and life are concerned. It is the "norm" for the species, and the majority of individual fish in that species will adhere to these norms.

Individual fish within a species may not always follow the norm. There are several reasons for this. Any environmental factor that the fish "expects" but which is not provided can affect its behaviourial response. For example, it is well established that when a shoaling species does not have sufficient numbers of its own, aggression will increase in most of the individual fish. This is simply the fish's way of responding to what it sees as adverse environmental conditions. Sometimes the fish's response will be the opposite. But what must be understood is that the fish has expectations programmed into its DNA and when certain of these are missing it is going to react somehow.

Back to our male Betta. Placed in with other fish, the betta's "normal" response is to drive the fish out of his territory. The fish purchased today have had this response heightened through breeding. So we should expect trouble, and the only way to avoid harm to the betta or the intended fish is to recognize the inappropriateness and not push the fish into what is for it an unnatural and foreighn environment. That is responsible fish husbandry.

It must also be understood that what we see is not always what is occurring. The fact that Betta "x" does not physically attack the other fish does not mean it is not still responding normally to an unacceptable (for the Betta) situation. The betta still regards the space as "his." He will be releasing chemical signals called pheromones (read by others of that species) and allomones (read by other species), and these can cause severe stress just as much as physical interaction, even though we cannot see them. We may however see the result, sooner or later. More than one member here has reported that all was well with their betta and his tankmates, only to have the member wake up one morning and find dead fish and the betta laying down the law.

It can work in reverse too. Small shoaling fish when confronted with a betta can also respond physically, nipping fins is common, or via allomones. All of which will stress the betta, maybe unseen, until it is too late.

The bottom line is to accept the norm for a species and provide accordingly. Anything else is taking a risk,and responsible aquarists should not deliberately go down that road. It is not fair to the fish, and it is in fact inhumane. As Paul Loiselle, an acknowledged cichlid authority, says in the citation in my signature.
 
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Thanks everyone for your help. I'll keep it this way for now and not going to add anymore fish for the time being. Betta looks fine right now and is swimming normally.. I'll keep an eye on it. When i was doing my research a lot of people said tetras/rasbora's are good mates for Betta.. I should have come here first.

Again, thanks..

If you are having Harlequin Rasboras, they might still be ok with Betta.

But yours are Green Neon Rasboras which are very small (max: 2cm) which don't stand a chance against the Betta.
They are considered as Micro Rasbora.

If they are bitten by the Betta, they may die immediately.
 
Point noted. I think i'm going to setup another planted tank just for my betta.. and then this current one can be for my rasboras which then i can increase the amount.

Thanks everyone, this community is awesome..

Yes, it will nice for the fish to have the tank for themselves....no predator...
Then you will see their natural behaviours...very interesting.

Yesterday evening, I went to my nearby fish stores.
There are 6 stores in one building.
They are getting more stocks after the lockdown.
But they don't have the Green Neon Rasboras at the moment.
I am thinking of getting the Green Neon Rasboras after reading about them from the internets.

I saw they have Panda Loaches(selling at $2 each - very cheap) which are about 1" size.
They are very cute.
But they need to have a tank that is full of algae.

 

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