Omg Glow In The Dark Fish!-what The?

[proton]

they might as well make glow in the dark fish then, oh and glow in the dark plants... i would like a glow in the dark cat...

interesting how people get bored with the beauty that is there already or can't see the beauty there…

 

[DiscusAngel]

there illegal in the UK now. some are in the uk as from when 1st imported. but ther still avaliable in the US i think lol. persanlly i would like some wit my discus as i ave almost "Flourecent blue discus" (obv not proper flourecent but there bright.) i would have liked some yellow ones to set them off. but there illegal so i cant

 

[Kribster]

I just think that we should apperciate what nature has made around us, instead of trying to outdo her - it never works, we just end up hurting everything. GM glowlight fish are not necessary, as there are natual glowlight fish out there in the wild. With any luck they will be un-compatiable with other danios and the strain may die out. small hope.
I agree with DeBree420 tho, because there are now red-bellied pirahnas living and breeding in the London Sewers and they have been found live in the Thames - fish that are born/hatched in cold water tend to adapt to it, so yet again selfish and stupid mankind has f"#&d up the environment - look what has happened in the past with this sort of thing;
Australia - Rabbits (not native - brits took them over there), Cane Toads.
Britain - Signal Crayfish, Grey Squirrel, Muntjack...

if i carried on with every example like this the forum would probably crash!


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[andywg]

I just think that we should apperciate what nature has made around us, instead of trying to outdo her - it never works, we just end up hurting everything. GM glowlight fish are not necessary, as there are natual glowlight fish out there in the wild. With any luck they will be un-compatiable with other danios and the strain may die out. small hope.

Do you really think a glow in the dark fish is likely to survive better than a normal one? There is almost no chance of these fish becoming the dominant species in the wild.

I agree with DeBree420 tho, because there are now red-bellied pirahnas living and breeding in the London Sewers and they have been found live in the Thames - fish that are born/hatched in cold water tend to adapt to it,

Do you actually have any evidence of RBP breeding in the London area? I find it highly unlikely that a fish that is from tropical areas is going to be able to survive a cold London sewer (not to mention the pollutants in said water). I also have difficulty accepting that they will be able to adapt over 1 generation to a drop in temperature from around 23/24 C to 6 or 7 and colder.

[edit] I have just checked and can find no reference to a live piranha being found in the thames. The only news stories I can find involve a RBP being dropped from a sea gull or other bird onto a boat in the Thames. Do you have any proof of anything you have claimed in the above post, as I really can't corroborate it.[/edit]

At the end of the day, the glolight are a proof of concept being sold on to help fund further research. I seem to recall reading that they are working on a fish which changes in its colour in some way when certain pollutants are present in low qualities, which thus has very useful applications in water treatment.

 

[Teelie]

A few things, these fish DO NOT GLOW IN THE DARK. They glow under blacklights quite nicely and look more intense under normal lighting but otherwise they don't do anything special. Second, of all the fish with the potential to invade and/or out compete native fish, these have the least likely chance to do it. It's a glowing fish. it might as well have "come eat me" tattooed on the side of its body. Thirdly, these were created originally with a genuine scientific function to determine the amount of pollution in water. Their becoming a trade fish is only a side-effect of that.

I also find it funny that people who often complain about the depletion of wild stocks of fish will turn around and complain about a lab-created species that has absolutely no use or chance of survival in the wild. It's not a dangerous fish. No amount of stupid science fiction fantasy about genetic modification and mutant fish or disease is going to happen either.

I do understand a lot of people get poor and bad information about genetics and modification but people who take the time to learn about keeping fish should be above believing any nonsense they read.

 

[Matty P]

That is horrible...

 

[Teelie]

Hardly horrible. They aren't mistreated or abused like dyed or tattooed fish are.

 

[Danno]

These fish are considered "GMOs", or Genetically Modified Organisms. This (I hope) is the future of fish dyeing because it isn't cruel or painful. But then again, that is my opinion.

 

[Teelie]

I agree. If a fish is going to be modified, do it the least harmful way possible. These fish are no threat to anything and the science behind it, though new, is not going to pardon the pun, open a can of worms that will result in horrific genetic cocktails of animals that will go on to harm anything. In fact most domesticated animals and genetically engineered animals done the old fashioned way (breeding over generations) can't survive as well in the wild as their natural counterparts do.

 

[proton]

I personally don't think it is fine to genetically alter fish like that or any living creature for that matter. To me it's a little off putting to know that the fish in my tank was altered genetically to look "beautiful". It then begs the question why not genetically alter humans to be pure bread without any sickness etc in our genes, let’s have designer babies then. Why genetically alter a fish to test water parameters when we can use technology and/or chemical test kits? Someone is trying to make a buck out of these fish. What would people do if scientists managed to change the pigmentation of rats to any colour of your choice, his eyes, tail, everything the colour of your choice, would you run to the pet shop and buy an orange/red/green/whatever rat? Ask yourself the question, are you happy with genetically altered animals? What is a fish? Is not the body you occupy an animal with a brain?

The Depletion of wild stock out there is cause we are greedy? We want and want and want and hardly give back... We think more about us and less about them (animals/wildlife/nature)... We are made aware and say things like "what a shame", "Oh no the rain forests are going", "There is a depletion of fish stock in the sea" But what do we really do? Oh I'm sure someone is doing something right !!!

OK I got a little side tracked....Ho Hum... my 2p for the day (UK residents) 4 cents to the rest of ya...

 

[Zeoth]

#@%^&* !!!!! I hate it when people do these kind of things! :stupid: :stupid: :stupid: :stupid:

 

[Dorkhedeos]

It then begs the question why not genetically alter humans to be pure bread without any sickness etc in our genes, let’s have designer babies then. Why genetically alter a fish to test water parameters when we can use technology and/or chemical test kits? Someone is trying to make a buck out of these fish.

i dont think we are advanced enough to alter humans to that extent yet. it will probably happen in the future though, just like in gattaca chemical test kits are probably more expensive than fish because you would have to use it whenever you wanted to test it instead of just looking at the fish.

i personally dont think theres anything wrong with this because the fish arent really harmed, and theres no way a pink fish will survive in the wild because it stands out way too much, so it will never take over wild species. i think selling them is wrong because some stupid people would probably flush them when they lose their colors because of poor water conditions.

 

[Teelie]

I personally don't think it is fine to genetically alter fish like that or any living creature for that matter. To me it's a little off putting to know that the fish in my tank was altered genetically to look "beautiful". It then begs the question why not genetically alter humans to be pure bread without any sickness etc in our genes, let’s have designer babies then. Why genetically alter a fish to test water parameters when we can use technology and/or chemical test kits? Someone is trying to make a buck out of these fish. What would people do if scientists managed to change the pigmentation of rats to any colour of your choice, his eyes, tail, everything the colour of your choice, would you run to the pet shop and buy an orange/red/green/whatever rat? Ask yourself the question, are you happy with genetically altered animals? What is a fish? Is not the body you occupy an animal with a brain?

This is exactly the kind of way-out-there science fiction mumbo jumbo I was warning against. This is taking the most extreme measures and trying to make them out to be the future.

Oh, and to answer the question, no I don't mind genetically modified animals. I actually have kept Glo-fish and know more than what the media sensationalizes.

 

[Bozza]

I dont know if im ok with it or disagree with it. I suppose if the fish don't get hurt and their lifespan doesn't get affect then i suppose im ok with it Ive only seen dyed fish here in australia. Haven't seen these types of fish here

 

[true aquarius]

Most of the golden fish are GM too. Nothing natural...