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Old Cory parasites really bad today

I think chemicals like formaldehyde, malachite green and copper sulphate have their uses for severe infections, like the illness that caused the Corydoras to die or a positive detection for gill flukes. When dosed correctly it is poisonous to the disease organism, not the fish. I do not think anybody would knowingly use these chemicals if it had a lasting and unethical impact on the fish itself, me included.

There are also practical applications for these chemicals such as disinfecting newly bought plants during quarantine.

As for Corydoras and salt, there seems to be a lot of evidence out there to suggest it can stress Corydoras Aeneus though I’m not sure how it affects the other types.
 
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You can get rid of salt by doing water changes, just like you get rid of chemical medications by doing water changes.

How many people on Seriouslyfish have worked with sick fish on a daily basis for 20 years? Probably none.
How many people on Seriouslyfish have more than 10 years fish keeping experience?
How many have worked in quarantine facilities and pet shops helping customers keep fish alive?

I don't normally like saying this, but I have more fish keeping experience in my little finger than most people put together. There are a handful of people that I consider to have as much knowledge as me when it comes to fish keeping and many of them don't have the same experiences with fish diseases I have had. You might question my methods about salt, but they are proven and safe.

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I would rather swim in the ocean with salt water and even drink some salt water than swim in a pool with any fish medication.

Malachite Green is commonly used to treat white spot and other external protozoan infections. It causes cancer. Salt doesn't, nor does heat. Both of which can be used to treat external protozoan infections in freshwater fishes.

Copper damages kidneys but is also used to treat white spot, velvet and other external protozoan infections.

Formaldehyde/ Formalin is found in most chemical fish medications and is a poison used to preserve things. They pickle dead animals and people with this stuff so they last forever. In low doses it kills disease organisms but it still damages the fish. Why do you think they have a warning label on it, do not let chemical come in contact with skin. Do not ingest, inhale or get in eyes. In case of contact, flush with water immediately and seek medical help. You're putting this poison in your tanks.

There are plenty of other chemicals used in fish tanks that are extremely poisonous to anything that ingests them and they all do some damage to the fish. Trichlorphon was used to treat fish with external parasites like anchorworm & gill flukes. It's been banned in lots of countries because it is extremely toxic.

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None of these chemicals are allowed to be used in aquaculture for food fish because they all leave residue in the fish and that can move up the food chain into the animals/ people that eat them. If health departments around the world say these chemicals are unsafe for people and animals to ingest, why you would expose your fish to them?

Yes, Salt can kill fish but it's a hell of a lot safer than anything sold as a chemical fish medication, and doesn't leave any poisonous residue behind. There are times when chemicals are needed, but for most issues, clean water and salt work just fine.

The dose rates I suggest have all been used by myself for over 40 years and I have never killed a fish with salt. How many people have killed fish by overdosing chemical medications?

Ask yourself, would you prefer to live in a tank with a bit of salt water, or would you rather live in a tank with toxic chemicals like Formaldehyde, Malachite Green and Copper sulphate?
But good for you, being the absolute only person in the world to have experience, to know fish, and to have the ever coveted job of being the sole authority on all things fish.

Ya know, because SF is made by a bunch of idiots who clearly don't have the qualifications you have. You must have your own secret batch of articles hand written by yourself, that you don't share with the rest of us idiots who know nothing compared to you.


Have a good day, I'm done with you and this forum. Had enough of being talked down to, being flat out harassed by certain others, and clearly don't have any qualifications to even have an ounce of respect from you, who has clearly let the "fish guru" title go to your head.

You are also heavily insulting our good Byron who has contributed so much to SF. What you said here is a blatant slap in the face by discrediting SF.
 
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Oh Sorry, What have i started. Please lets not argue, i feel guilty now starting the thread?.
Lets just agree to disagree this time
 
Ahhh all the Corys have died now........
Ive shut the tank down for cleaning, New sand etc etc, I am going to start again, Still got the other tanks so not like im stuck with no fish
 
Oh Sorry, What have i started. Please lets not argue, i feel guilty now starting the thread?.
Lets just agree to disagree this time
don't worry, it wasn't your fault and has nothing to do with this thread.
 
Im not sure @Deanasue, Some sort of Parasite, It had been on going for a while, They had it quite hard since xmas time, Treating for Ich with heat, Then worming them, Then they had Myxazin treatment, Then Protozin, Then Salt treatments. I guess it was just to much for them. I just dont know where to move on from here regarding tank cleaning, New substrate, Bleach everything & start again?
I still have fish in my other tank & im not ready for throwing the towel in just yet
 
They had blood streaked abdomens, Twisting, Flicking, Darting & my oldest had popeye. They were water changed everyday for a few weeks but still no improvement. Colins salt method seemed to work at first but maybe it was too late
 
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Im not sure @Deanasue, Some sort of Parasite, It had been on going for a while, They had it quite hard since xmas time, Treating for Ich with heat, Then worming them, Then they had Myxazin treatment, Then Protozin, Then Salt treatments. I guess it was just to much for them. I just dont know where to move on from here regarding tank cleaning, New substrate, Bleach everything & start again?
I still have fish in my other tank & im not ready for throwing the towel in just yet
You can let the tank lay dormant for a few weeks. I personally would clean and bleach. Then soak everything with Prime to rid it of the bleach and air dry. Salt needs to be given at half dose for cories. They are very sensitive to it. I’m so saddened that you lost them all. I know you wanted to breed them. Hang in there. I lost 11 female bettas once. It’s sad but we move on and get better from the lessons learned. :)
 
Thanks for the kind words, I am just going to get it cleaned up in the next few days i dont know if to buy new sand or just rinse the old stuff?
Dont suppose it matters really, new & old it all has to be rinsed so prob just bin it & buy new. Its playsand so its cheap anyway.
I can clean the decor & tank, thats the easy bit.
Ive left the bogwood soaking though in the tank with a few inches of water to keep it wet
 
Thanks for the kind words, I am just going to get it cleaned up in the next few days i dont know if to buy new sand or just rinse the old stuff?
Dont suppose it matters really, new & old it all has to be rinsed so prob just bin it & buy new. Its playsand so its cheap anyway.
I can clean the decor & tank, thats the easy bit.
Ive left the bogwood soaking though in the tank with a few inches of water to keep it wet
I would let the big wood sit for a few weeks. With no host, parasites won’t live that long. Glad you’re not giving up. I’ve been where you are now several times. :)
 
I still have the guppy tank which is doing well, 6 females in there from 1 of my November 2020 batches, There are a few fry in the box, Theres around 12 but ive spotted more fry in the tank, So may get them out soon, Ive not gone down yet & i will be back once again.
Im thinking of just having Bronze & Albino Corys in the tank thats just gone down maybe 12, 6 of each or maybe a few less not too bothered if im honest, Suppose i could add a few top swimmers for a bit of activity
 
Oh Sorry, What have i started. Please lets not argue, i feel guilty now starting the thread?.
Lets just agree to disagree this time
Not your fault, wasn't anything to do with your thread, so don't you dare feel badly, okay?
Ahhh all the Corys have died now........
Ive shut the tank down for cleaning, New sand etc etc, I am going to start again, Still got the other tanks so not like im stuck with no fish

I'm so sorry for your loss, matey. It's awful. but glad you're not ready to throw in the towel! I'd also start from scratch with that tank. Bleach everything, chuck the sand, start afresh.

You could make a journal thread when you're ready to start the tank over again! Try to make something positive to help you get over the negative.
 
Yeh Thanks, Am cool about it. Ive washed the tank & filters out today so will let it sit for a few weeks to dry out, No rush now im back at work on Monday so will be busy elsewhere.
Plus ive got my guppy fry growing up, So least thats something. Glad i have 2 of everything to clean & net though otherwise both tanks could of been wiped out.
 

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