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Id say Ammonia and Nitrite are the most important, the rest you can get as you go along.
Ok mate. Are they the killers? And how long do you think it will take for the tank to cycle? With the filter been second hand will it shorten the time?

Cheers
 
Id say Ammonia and Nitrite are the most important, the rest you can get as you go along.
Ok mate. Are they the killers? And how long do you think it will take for the tank to cycle? With the filter been second hand will it shorten the time?

Cheers
If the filter has been out of water that fish are in for more then 12 hours then the bacteria would be dead. It will take at least a month or more usually to cycle your tank. If you can get some media from a cycled tank off someone it will speed things up.
 
Id say Ammonia and Nitrite are the most important, the rest you can get as you go along.
Ok mate. Are they the killers? And how long do you think it will take for the tank to cycle? With the filter been second hand will it shorten the time?

Cheers
If the filter has been out of water that fish are in for more then 12 hours then the bacteria would be dead. It will take at least a month or more usually to cycle your tank. If you can get some media from a cycled tank off someone it will speed things up.

Ok mate thanks. Can get some of the guy who gave me the tank :D
 
If your used filter has stayed moist and been away from fish for less than a week, it will recover quickly. If it has been allowed to dry out or been away from a source of nitrogen for a long time, you will indeed be starting over.
 
The filter in the picture looks to be a stingray, one of the types that comes new with zeolite. If zeolite is still one of the media types active in this filter, it can be a significant slowdown to cycling until the zeolite has quit taking up most of the ammonia the new bacteria would be using for food. Unfortunately I believe quite a number of stingray-owning members in the last year or two have also posted of other problems with the stingray. I'm not clear on whether most of them were based on too little media volume, too much water bypass of the media, or not enough slowdown of the flow through the media container, but a number of them ended up switching to other filters I believe. Hopefully some of them might respond to this thread or to another thread with stingray in the title or something.

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The filter in the picture looks to be a stingray, one of the types that comes new with zeolite. If zeolite is still one of the media types active in this filter, it can be a significant slowdown to cycling until the zeolite has quit taking up most of the ammonia the new bacteria would be using for food. Unfortunately I believe quite a number of stingray-owning members in the last year or two have also posted of other problems with the stingray. I'm not clear on whether most of them were based on too little media volume, too much water bypass of the media, or not enough slowdown of the flow through the media container, but a number of them ended up switching to other filters I believe. Hopefully some of them might respond to this thread or to another thread with stingray in the title or something.

~~waterdrop~~

Ok mate thank you. Will have a search around the forum for some info
 
just wanted to ask you but....did you treat the water with any kind of declor?
 
declor - decleor

i know i miss the e out, i just find it easier but either way, it makes the water safe for fish, removes chlorine, chloramine and some metals if i remember rightly....

either way you NEED it for sure, i know some people (your friend included) may get away with not using it but i assure you that you will have constant problems!
 
declor - decleor

i know i miss the e out, i just find it easier but either way, it makes the water safe for fish, removes chlorine, chloramine and some metals if i remember rightly....

either way you NEED it for sure, i know some people (your friend included) may get away with not using it but i assure you that you will have constant problems!
Yeah i've got some in. Its called aqua plus by nutrafin, which removes chlorine, chloarmine and protects scales and fins. This the right kind of thing?
The instructions are a bit vague. It says 1 cap full for every 10 gallons but doesnt say how often.
Could anyone help
 
Yes Aqua Plus is fine.

You need to add it everytime you add fresh tap water to the tank.

How do you do water changes? Do you use a bucket? If so, work out the size of the bucket and add the relevant amount of dechlor for each bucket.


Andy
 
declor - decleor

i know i miss the e out, i just find it easier but either way, it makes the water safe for fish, removes chlorine, chloramine and some metals if i remember rightly....

either way you NEED it for sure, i know some people (your friend included) may get away with not using it but i assure you that you will have constant problems!
Yeah i've got some in. Its called aqua plus by nutrafin, which removes chlorine, chloarmine and protects scales and fins. This the right kind of thing?
The instructions are a bit vague. It says 1 cap full for every 10 gallons but doesnt say how often.
Could anyone help
You put it in anytime you do a water change. If you use say a 5 gallon bucket to do water changes put enough in the bucket for 5 gallons then fill the bucket up keep doing that tell tanks full again. Or you can wait until after the water change and put it directly in the tank but then you have to put enough in for the whole tank so say if your tanks a 55 gallon the you need to put in enough to cover that. Its better and cheaper just to add it to the bucket. Also if you add it directly to the tank put it in a small glass of water and stir it up then put in there because you don't want it to direclty hit a fish. Also if you do it that way make sure to turn you filters off so the unconditioned water does get in there and start kill the bactreria.
 
Also regarding the filter, My first tank was an elite 60 tank with a stingray filter and I didnt think much of the filter to be honest. You would be much better replacing the filter with a fluval internal filter, either a fluval U2 or a fluval 2+ both are cheap (under £20 if you are in UK) and both are great filters.

Andy
 

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