No clue at all

[Sorrell]

I have lost 4 fish in four days to what appears to be two different things. The first two that died, layed on the bottom for two days heaving and then they die. No other symptoms, all their color is intact, fins look great, just heaving

The second set has no symptoms whatsoever, they just die. This happened with one the other day, and then today as well. Today I was outside taking pictures of a row of fish, where my opaque plakat Alkatraz is. I took pictures of him as well, flaring and showing off. I left for maybe 30 minutes tops to go order a birthday cake and I come back and he is dead The only thing that is different is his gills turned black and it looks like they bled out. I took a picture of it and I'll add it in a second. It's on my other computer which is being retarded.

Any ideas? I just don't know what to do because I can't treat for something I can't see

 

[Sorrell]

I apologize for posting a picture of a dead fish and I'm sorry if it bothers anyone I just want to figure out what the heck is going on over here

You can see the color of the gills and the blood (?) underneath him

edit-Just to clarify, when I was taking pictures an hour ago his gills were clear

 

[GuppyDude]

im really sorry sorrel, ahve you benn doing anything differant with your water lately? when you clean the bowls or tanks do u rinse the hose after each cleaning? my guess is that one fish got sick and if u used the same equiptment to clean the tanks then it got transported that way. i wish i knew what it was, i had my veiltail die of simular symptoms, didn't move much, wouldn't eat, stayed at the bottom

 

[wuvmybetta]

How bizarre. I've searched around and so far I've come up with nothing. It almost seems that maybe he injured himself while he was flaring as much as you say. I wonder if they can literally over flare themselves to death Maybe they cause something to burst in that delicate region between the gill and the labyrinth and they suffocate then/or bleed out quickly

 

[GuppyDude]

now that u bring it up wuv, my veil didn't really get sick until after i flared him with my other male that morning

 

[Wisperian]

maybe something happened to his labyrinth and stuff....... dont tell me that the dead betta is Paper or any of your white or opaque bettas they're too cute to die

 

[nashnutny]

You might want to check with your water company to see if they might have added something new to the water or if they have a bacterial problem of some sort.

 

[GuppyDude]

well its gotta be something thats happening to all the fish, its not and individual its 4 fish in 4 days

 

[Sorrell]

Water is all I can think of, my tap went to pH of 9.0 two weeks ago, so I've been buying R/O water and mixing it 50/50 to create a pH of 8.0 I acclimated them all to it over a weeks period of water changes and now they are 100% switched over.

The only thing that is different in this fish's life...I switched him to a new tank, and a new shelf. I bleached it and moved him, but I don't think that bleach would kill him 3 days later in 30 minutes time .......

My fish do share a baster I bleach it nightly, but it does go from tank to tank everyday.

I'm going to call my water people and see what their readings are, and if anything has changed...

Any ideas on the heaving two?

 

[GuppyDude]

well if u make sure the bleach is completely clean outta the bowls and the baster then that shouldn't be the problem, the tap water thing u mentions is quite interesting, they could be adding chems to it to make it clean. they dont only use chlorine u know its definately from water somehow

 

[Sorrell]

I called, of course no one answers I just did tests on a tank from the fishroom and then my tap. The tank water tested at 9.0 and the tap water didn't even register So, this means it went up again

When I went out the the fishroom to get the water, I have one more heaver and one hanging at the top. I don't know what to do! Normally I would do a water change, but at this point I think that would be worse. And if I do straight R/O I worry I'll shock them with the pH change SJHGDU FY Gfhsdgbfcyushdga I'm SOOO Mad!!!!!

 

[shrks1fan]

Yikes, if it's hitting other fish now too I would definetly be looking at the water as a possible cause or something you've accidentally got in their tanks/water via a net, syphon etc. What do you use to condition your water? Does it cover all the bases such as Chlorine, Chlormamines, Ammonia etc?

If it had just been a single fish who suddenly died I would say it possibly could have been something like an embilism <sp>, heart problem etc....something you would never see and could happen suddenly, just like with humans (I rarely see those mentioned yet I would think things like that happen to fish too).

Linda

 

[jkun17]

You use bleach? I'm a bit too weary on using chemicals to clean my tools. If ever I clean waste or anything like that I just do a series of temperature shocks on them to kill whatever's in there.

 

[Sorrell]

I treat my betta water with a dechorinator, stress coat, black water extract, and salt.

The two that I am concerned over now just ate their dinner fine, and I did about 30% w/c on their tanks using straight R/O

 

[Danno]

How is your ammonia?
Do you have a lid on your tank so the air is humid? No cover could create pneumonia or bronchitis, or mononucleosis (mono)
Hope your other bettas are ok