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Neons! Someone please tell me the best and most favorable water conditions for them. Wife loves them, but they always dwindle away on her. I would even do a dedicated tank for them.
 
soft, slightly acidic water. Can't remember the actual parameters off-hand - someone will probably beat me to it too :D

We're off out to celebrate tonight :)
 
Hi All,

GL -
Neons! Someone please tell me the best and most favorable water conditions for them.

Here you go:

Acidity: pH 5.5-6.0
Hardness: 1-2°dH
Temp: 23-24°C

As far as I am concerned that is about ideal. I think everyone has problems at first with Neon’s, as they are a lot more sensitive to changes in their environment than is generally realised (so any water adjustments need to be made S-l-o-w-l-y).

If you have them in a community then try to get as close to the above readings as possible before adding the Neon’s (after acclimatising them S-l-o-w-l-y :D ). As long as you can keep the water stable you should be able to keep them for years with no problems.
 
Feargal, is this from your experances or have you found this info from somewhere. To be honist I'd wear rubber gloves to go in that tank ;)
 
I did find this somewhere originally (years ago) though I never got the tank I had to these readings, I did my best to get as close as I could (maybe that was wrong?), but had to take in to account the other members of the tank also.

Aside from the readings I think that water instability is responsible for the majority of losses people have with Neon's as they seem to manage very well in a wide range of water conditions (so long as they are stable conditions).

Also a lot of people tend to have these as 'first fish' in a tank, which they are not really suited to as they are pretty sensitive to changes in the water.

That's what I have found anyway. Let me know what you think - and please do be 'honist' :D
 
Years ago the Neon and Cardinal Tetras were as hard as nails!!!

But nowadays i must admit that they seem awfully delicate :what: , perhaps as a result of being captive bred in such vast quantities :what:
 
True Pete. Mass breedeing effects the genetics somhow and reduces the natural resistance(IMHO). besides anything that looks i'll in these farms is immeceatley removed and killed and the others generaly treaded so donot get a chance to build up their immune system.
 
When I had Neon's four years ago they were pretty hardy, though some people did seem to have a problem keeping them even then.

If Neon's are even more sensitive now then I can see why it could be a problem.

Seeing as they are one of the fish species I intend to keep then I think I am going to do some investigating in to the current thinking on the Neon.

I'll let you know what I find.
 
Thanks Feargal. I will have to consider whether or not I wnt to try to keep my PH that low for a species tank. I have to agree with Davy that 6.0 is pretty acidic.

But thanks, might have to give it a try.
 
:) The neons I have just now are about 3 yrs old (20 of). I got about 2 doz and lost a few soon after, but the rest are fine. These fish are mass produced in the Far East and definately not as hardy as a number of years ago but on the other hand they are more tolerant of different water conditions. IMO they can be kept in water that is as hard as 30dGh and a PH to 8.0 as long as they are acclimatised properly but prefers a hardness of about 10 and PH7.0. The secret is the stabilty of water conditions what ever they are. The stats Feargal gave are from their original environment and should only be aimed for if you intend to breed them. :thumbs: Mac.
 
Thx for the info Mac. :)

GL - as Mac says the stats I gave were supposedly ideal conditions for Neon's.

If the mass production of the Neon has affected it as mentioned above then a PH of about 8.0 may well be fine.

The more important factor is keeping the conditions stable.
 
Going by nitrate levels I should have the hardiest neons known as some of you that know of my recent prob will know. :laugh: It's coming down guys. very slowly.
 
Speaking of which Adeyc PM me with the latest and i think i may have a answer for you. (sorry if the spelling is a bit more off tonight as I am a bit sloshed. Enjoing every minute of it too). Rose
 
Interesting. In Feargals link, the author has a salinity level for her fish. I have heard many claim this is a no no for neons.

I am beginning to think acclimation is the key.

When I last kept neons, my hardness and PH were 10 and 7.5 respectively. I am beginning to think they were falling prey to my catfish and large pleco due to the neon habit of sleeping on the bottom.
 

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