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So I have changed my tank around a little and added a spray bar and a airstone to create abit of a current. I can see straight away that the water is circulating better and the fish love to sit in the current created by the spray bar. Also i just snapped them "chillin out" all together, except 1 which seem to always stay on its own, i wonder why?


Tank by Karl Wilkinson, on Flickr


School by Karl Wilkinson, on Flickr
 
are you sure that.being that attentive is necessary? i've been successful at sea and fresh water for over 20 years and have never changed.water.so much during a cycle. a test kit is really only a must for salt tanks. fresh is so easy that as long as he doesn't over populate during the first cycling month, he should be just fine. why are you telling him to change water.so, so much? he needs the amonia laden water for bateria growth. that canister filter in.that tank is going to limit the amount of bateria anyway since it is closed and limited on space for the amount of media he needs for that size of tank. i've never had to, been advised to, or have seen anyone change water as much as recommended here? i'm not saying it is wrong. i'd just like to know what the thought is and if it is realistic in a fresh tank of it's size. you shouldn't apply all the recommendation to ANY tank. keep in mind the volume and the reasons for steps and logically apply rules. tank volume will be a great factor in how you start a tank. everyone will have different opinions on how all this is done and especially on maintainning tanks. while most everyone is correct, there are quite a few streams of thought on how to keep a tank. i just.warn you not to be too anal with a fresh/water tank. to much hands in tank is very bad. size the filtration to your volume, then double it, and the volume of media your filtration can bear. just don't flip out and add too many fish in the first month. plants will need a good co2 source of they will not survive. don't use food as your source of decomposing biological matter to generate amonia during cycling. let the few, very few, fish in the tank do their thing. even if you did get used bio media from someone, you need to cycle the tank water before adding more life. fresh water is easy. your tank is awsome. love the substrate. your tank will be great when done. but add more filtration. i recognize the inlet hose to your canister filter. thise alone are aweful. you will be cleanning your tank all the time. add another form of filtration. add power heads to move the water towards the inlet. the slate will get a ton of debris settling in and on that. keep water aggitated with that kind of substrate. fish will love it also.

really, just read as much as you can about WHY maintenance is required. understand the chemical ballances required. understand each.fish and what they require. understand HOW plants grow underwater and what they need to grow. once you have a knowledge footing you will just know how and when to act on.your aquarium. listen to/people here, but really just research the physics and you'd be much better off. many ways to do this, but you have to stick with one method. when people give you advice, ask WHY a step is taken. it is very simple and extremely LOW maintenance. i do one water change a year roughly on my planted tank, and NEVER on my salt reef tank. all i do is add water due to evaporation, change the mechanical media every three to 6 months and feed the plants (CO2 & food) and fish. add clearfast every now and then but poly filter polishes the water on its own.

godd luck buddy. it's a very rewarding/hobby.
I had a lot of deaths due to "new tank syndrome" and "lack of knowledge." It's a good think these wonderful people on this forum told me to do daily water changes. I still have fish today because of such things as water changes and test strips.

I don't have a planted tank, and at the end of a 7 day week, my nitrates have gone from 10 to almost 50. I do water changes because nitrates at high levels is almost as toxic as ammonia and nitrite. I vaccuum the gravel once a week cause its gross when you don't. And so far.....oh my.....my fish are thriving :)
 
thats almost like saying do a background check on everyone traveling in case they might be a spy. if you have adequate filtration and minimal life in the tank during the first month or so you would never have to test every day and for the most part at all. tell me, what were your concentrations the last time you started a tank? were you ever in danger of killing your fish? btw, when toxic amonia builds up to kill or make your fish behave irregular, you will see remnants of decomposing organic matter about your tank. saltwater REQUIRES that you regularly test because even the slightest chemical change will upset coral to fish; coral are the sensitive life requiring stability. you don't get that same intolerance in fresh water. not just an overkill if you have proper filtration, but not needed at all really.
One small fish, such as a Betta, can jump the Ammonia levels in a 5g UNCYCLED tank to 5ppm in a week. This is lethal, toxic, and cruel. This can be prevented through frequent water changes. You taper off the water change as you see nitrites rise and fall, and the nitrate levels rising. Without doing water changes during a fish-in cycle, your fish will die. There is no other way around it, except to do a fishless cycle. When you have people in the forum who are doing fish-in cycle because they didn't know any better, water changes will almost assure that the fish will survive. I know there is a member on here who has done fish-in cycles for all of his tanks, and has never lost a fish because he did...wait for it.....DAILY WATER CHANGES!
 
So I have changed my tank around a little and added a spray bar and a airstone to create abit of a current. I can see straight away that the water is circulating better and the fish love to sit in the current created by the spray bar. Also i just snapped them "chillin out" all together, except 1 which seem to always stay on its own, i wonder why?


Tank by Karl Wilkinson, on Flickr


School by Karl Wilkinson, on Flickr
By the way, I am loving your tank. It's very pretty and tranquil. I strongly advise that you follow the majority suggestion of doing your water changes daily until you get a API master kit(or similar). Once you have the test kit, you can guage how often to do the water changes. Take if from me. I lost a lot of fish due to fish-in cycling, simply because I didn't know about ammonia and water chemistry. Heck I didn't even know that the filter contained essential bacteria. A lot of these member really know what they are talking about and have a love for fish that you wouldn't believe. It's going to be some hard work over the next few weeks, but the results are priceless. Welcome to the forum buddy, and to a very addicting and rewarding hobby :)
 
So I have changed my tank around a little and added a spray bar and a airstone to create abit of a current. I can see straight away that the water is circulating better and the fish love to sit in the current created by the spray bar. Also i just snapped them "chillin out" all together, except 1 which seem to always stay on its own, i wonder why?


Tank by Karl Wilkinson, on Flickr


School by Karl Wilkinson, on Flickr
By the way, I am loving your tank. It's very pretty and tranquil. I strongly advise that you follow the majority suggestion of doing your water changes daily until you get a API master kit(or similar). Once you have the test kit, you can guage how often to do the water changes. Take if from me. I lost a lot of fish due to fish-in cycling, simply because I didn't know about ammonia and water chemistry. Heck I didn't even know that the filter contained essential bacteria. A lot of these member really know what they are talking about and have a love for fish that you wouldn't believe. It's going to be some hard work over the next few weeks, but the results are priceless. Welcome to the forum buddy, and to a very addicting and rewarding hobby :)
+1 .... :thumbs: I think everybody has said their piece now..i had 3 x mollies in my tank after 5 days after setting up...they didn't make it to day 3! my test strips said the water was absolutly fine...they tested it in the LFS and it had 0.25ppm ..not much...but in 2 days??? Plus they really suffered...its awful to watch. Whether they are "pets" or not.....they are still living creatures and should be treated as such, you wouldnt wanna swim in the local pool if it was full with sewage...so they shouldnt either. THE END
 
Good afternoon and welcome to the forum. :good: Please don't get the test strips. They are notoriously inaccurate and this could be the life or death of your fish. As for water changes, while doing a fish in cycle, you will be a water changing machine. If you don't have a test kit, you should be doing a 50%+ change a day with temp matched, dechlorinated water. After you are cycled, 25% per week should be good with a larger change once a month. Never use chlorinated water in your tank or wash your filter in tap water. The chlorine will kill your beneficial bacteria.


OMG! I'm so glad to have read this post...I just did that when I lightly cleaned my filter. It pays to read other posts.
 
I see where the new poster is coming from. Somethings i agree with and some i dont. Everyone im sure has there own little ways and opinions. I think if your a newbie then testing water is fine but when more experianced then you can become slacker. I actually never test my water but i like to do weekly water changes of 20-25%. As you say it depends on size of tank to what percentage you do. Peace lol
 
Can't wait to get a red tailed shark in there, i think they are lovely, is my tank large enough for 2 of will there be a problem?
 
No, you'll have to have just one; my mum has managed to keep two together, but that's in a 5x2x2!
 
I love a bit of bogwood me! I can't remember but I think wood might absorb something... Like I said I can't remember what so I'm not even sure if it's important :lol:

Keep up the water changes, I know it's a pain but it will be worth it and once your tanks cycled you won't have to do it as much.

We did the fishless cycle and it's been running now since Easter, it's only really now that it's properly settled down and we don't have unexpected / unexplained deaths which is nice!
 
if the woods not soaked your water might turn brown and slightly acidic from it...

just boil it for afew hours in water then repeat untill waters fairly clean ... should get rid of it
 
You shouldn't really boil bogwood; it cooks it and makes it rot faster :)

Soaking in hot water is fine :good:
 
new update, the tetras absolutly love the bogwood, also 1 of the black skirt tetras seems to be growing alot bigger than the others almost twice the size??
 

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