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tell me, what were your concentrations the last time you started a tank? were you ever in danger of killing your fish?

When I started my first tank, I did a fish-in cycle with 5 zebra danios in a 70L tank (didn't know any better!). Definitely not overstocked, and the filter was rated for a much bigger tank. I DID test my water and found ammonia concentrations of over 4ppm during the cycle. Of course, I changed the water when I found that out, but how would I have found it out if I didn't test like you're suggesting?

By the way, the danios have since died, often showing symptoms of difficulty swimming and gasping at the surface. They were all less than a year old which i'm sure you know is nowhere near their average life expectancy. I religiously test the waterafter any deaths in my tanks and the water has always been fine, zero ammonia and nitrite, no other problems showing in any other fish, who by the way were added after the cycle had finished and are still going strong with no signs of bad health since. I'm sorry, but if you tell me that anything other than having to endure the high levels of ammonia during cycle harmed those fish I won't believe you.
 
Luckytankkeeper, I am not attacking you. I find it very irresponcible to tell a new aquarium keeper that they do not need to do water tests and water changes. It is the same advice big box stores give their customers. Good filtration means nothing if you don't have a cycled filter. The only way you would need to do 30 water changes in a month is if you don't have a test kit to tell you what your ammonia levels are. If you are just guessing, then for the health of your PETS, you should be cautious, very cautious and do your water changes. If you have a test kit and test 0 for ammonia and nitrite during a fish in cycle, there is no need for a water change. I am sorry to everyone on this forum for arguing this on this thread. As I said before, when you get enough post counts to pm me, please do so and we can discuss this like adults.

To the op of this thread, I have given my advice. It's up to you if you want to follow it. It is your tank, not mine. Good luck with your fish in cycle. I wish you and your fish all the best. They are your PETS. Treat them well and you will be rewarded. I will not respond to Luckytankkeeper again on your thread. I will respond to any questions you have.
 
Good afternoon and welcome to the forum. :good: Please don't get the test strips. They are notoriously inaccurate and this could be the life or death of your fish. As for water changes, while doing a fish in cycle, you will be a water changing machine. If you don't have a test kit, you should be doing a 50%+ change a day with temp matched, dechlorinated water. After you are cycled, 25% per week should be good with a larger change once a month. Never use chlorinated water in your tank or wash your filter in tap water. The chlorine will kill your beneficial bacteria.


the test strips are fine, ive used them now and then for 20 years, even you do double check with my fish shop and theres was the same, if you use them properly they will give you a rough guide, i mean any ammonia is a sign of a problem, and they pick it up really well, it seem to have been a right debate on here, its nothing to do with you but just that there are more than one way of doing anything in fish keeping, neither is wrong just different and each to there own i always say it is confusing to beginnings when one person say to do one thing and someone says thats wrong, let keep it simple stupid, di
 
If the test strips seem accurate to you, then by all means, use them. My experience has been the opposite. I tested with the strips for a long time. When I had a few fish die, I tested with the strips and they gave me a 0 reading for ammonia. I took a sample to a friend and they tested with a liquid test kit. The ammonia level was 2ppm. You are right, there are many ways to do things. I'm only giving advice from my personal experience, as you are. Thankyou for your input.
 
I have the Aqua One Aquis 1050 External Filter
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I have the 7 Tetras in the tank and i plan on leaving them there for 4 weeks, then taking a sample to my LPS, while doing 15-20% water changes every couple of days. I think i will get a power flow head they seem good, also i have started to get what i can only describe as little white worms sticking to my glass.. Is this Algae?
 
like i said, DON'T PUT SO MANY FISH. and i find it hard to believe you had 4ppm with 7 danios and and oversized filter. someone is not telling the truth here. 4ppm with 7 danios in70l tank? i call bull#105###e here pal. my you still check religiously? you probably have the cheapest filter you could buy, because most people are full of it when they say they carebabout their fish, but in reality they spend more on ice creamnthan in equipment for their fish. your filter probably says for 80l tank but is a cheap $25 overflow crap. that is NOT what i mean by filtration. see, you people don't know how to do this hobby. so, just change water every day and stick test strips in the tank every week instead of LEARNINGHOW TO DO IT RIGHT! thqt IS my POINT.
calm the heck down mr newbie, we know what fishkeeping is and we know how to do it. And we are doing it right, because all out tanks are balanced and everyone who has followed the fishless cycle advice has succeded and nealy everyone who has followed the fish-in cycle advice has succeded. And don't even thik of picking out on the nearly, because that is such a small number compared to the succeses that the succes overshadows them.

Now either shut up, go away and stop attacking the members in this thread and my friends or actually say something nice for a change before i report you to the admin, and don't think i am bluffing either. You have one more chance.

Oh, say anything offensive to me and i will find you and kick your a$. Understand?

I have the Aqua One Aquis 1050 External Filter
791100-thumb.jpg
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I have the 7 Tetras in the tank and i plan on leaving them there for 4 weeks, then taking a sample to my LPS, while doing 15-20% water changes every couple of days. I think i will get a power flow head they seem good, also i have started to get what i can only describe as little white worms sticking to my glass.. Is this Algae?


good to talk o someone who isnt a bulshy idiot.

The white worms, do they move like worms or are they stuck onto the glass at one point, if they are the latter they are algae


you probably have the cheapest filter you could buy, because most people are full of it when they say they carebabout their fish, but in reality they spend more on ice cream than in equipment for their fish. your filter probably says for 80l tank but is a cheap $25 overflow crap. that is NOT what i mean by filtration.


I find this very offensive,

1. I don't eat Ice Cream

2. I spend a lot of money on fish related items I'll give you a hint shall i? huh?

Tank 1
Filter 1, cost - 60 quid
Filter 2, Cost- 50 quid
Air pump, Cost- 40 quid
Heater, Cost 20 quid
Gravel, Cost 27 quid
Bogwood, Cost 10 quid
All plants, Cost 35quid

Tank 2

Filter Cost 20 quid
gravel cost 10 quid
air pump cost 15 quid

See, i fork out for them, and i know that i am not the only one either. SO SHUT UP
 
So.................... Is my AquaOne Aquis 1050 a decent enough filter for me (a beginner) Or are you all to busy fighting?
 

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