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Nelly's Old 5X2X2

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Oddball and African riverine fish keeper
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After what must be at least a month since buying this tank from "fishsouth.co.uk" just four days after he bought it along with fish and filtration from "Nelly," I was finally able to get this beast up and running over this bank holiday weekend!
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The batteries died while taking pics (struggling to get decent ones without massive sun glare, going back down in a sec), but here are a few ok(ish) ones so far...







The thing I'm most concerned about and still waiting to hear from Nelly regarding (after e-mailing him over the weekend), is what is deemed the safe maximum water level... Currently ~3" below the glass edge (which is a few inches below the top wooden border, that doubles as a brace).
 
Fantastic. Another big tank to drool over and watch progress. Are you not concerned with algae blooming in a tank with that much direct sun. I'd get a non-transparent backing on sharpish.

What are your plans for this tank.
 
Fantastic. Another big tank to drool over and watch progress. Are you not concerned with algae blooming in a tank with that much direct sun. I'd get a non-transparent backing on sharpish.

What are your plans for this tank.

I'm actually hoping some algae takes hold... ;)

As I want to introduce my Panda Garras down there in the very near future, partly to further seperate my Asian and African fish but also to give both them and what I think are a spawning pair of Lionheads in my Rio some "space." The Garras have a field day on fresh alage (they're omnivores), albeit not quite to the extent of my two Hypoptopoma.
They will also be fine in the more temperate water down there, which my 200W and 50W heaters are just about managing to hold at 21C... I need to replace the 50W with a Rena 300W asap (will tag it onto my order with the "Aquacadabra" Ebay store, of a Wavemaker 12000 powerhead and an APS 2000EF external filter plus UV).

I'm in a little dilemma at the mo about moving more fish down there, namely the Golden Wonder Panchax and the Humphead Glassfish, to completely seperate Asian and African fish (Although those five 2cm SL Leopard Bushfish are going to need a HUGE tank at some point and may well joint the Asian community). I need to do more research into the temperature viability for starters and part of my likes the concept of the Humpheads being the centrepiece of my nice planted Rio240.
 
Hmm, "edit" has gone all wonky for this thread...

Plans...
  • To get another three of the red-finned Barilius from the same store in Cadnam (so whether they are canarensis; sp. bakeri; or something completely different).
  • To get another four of the what are belived to be the almost fully grown (8cm SL) Barilius dogarsinghi.
  • Keep on trying to find a way of sourcing four females or more Opsarius pulchellus for these two beatiful guys.
  • The Ctenopoma acutirostre will probably join them once they have grown to ~8cm SL, or they are creating havok in the Rio, whichever happens first. When this happens, I will have to be very observant for signs of spawning, as a pair of Leopards could potentially kill all other tankmates!
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  • Possibly add the Golden Wonder Panchax trio hareem from the Rio.
  • Possibly add the Humphead Glassfish.
  • Evaluate if there is room for things such as Hillstream Loach (meant to bring this up regarding your algae concern); "Ilyodon" Goodeids; Red or Lake Katubu Rainbows; Giant Danios etc. (but take things much slower stocking wise than I did with the fish I have upto date, I bought too many too quickly for tanks that were a pipe dream and not reality).
 
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Any idea what I have done wrong with the above code? I want to embed the clip to this post ;)

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=tnF7oepWmxQ
 
Hmm, how this one?
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=tnF7oepWmxQ

Or this from my Imageshack (Yfrog linked) account?
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OR
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The top one works for me. Look good but you a bit wobble with the camera lol
Does this work
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I dont have a clue why the embed code isnt working.
 
Looking brilliant mate :) Cant wait for you to get settled and sorted with this :) You have one the best tastes in fish by far and the research you do to get to this point is just fantastic, keep it up and youll have a practical fish keeping feature :lol:

Wills
 
looks good Steve!

you've taken to this fish keeping malarkee well!! lol
 
Thanks all for the comments and I think I will leave the articles in PFK to the likes of Neale, who are not "young grasshoppers" to the art of fish keeping ;)

I'm looking forward to when we find a new ground floor flat and I can then set up this tank properly with sand and plants like Anubias and Java Fern that will tolerate the waterflow I have planned in the way of a 12000 litres per hour double powerhead!
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Part of me wonders about sorting out those Barilius numbers ASAP, so they have at least six per species group, or whether I should wait until we move?
 
Aye you might not be writing for them just yet ;) But you could get a feature in their your tanks section with your awesome selection of fish if you show them it :D

As for increasing the numbers I would go for it, first of all if the shop sells the rest of them then you will be stuck but also because when you do move you will most likely be moving them all together anyway and I imagine that will include poly boxes in some shape or form so all it will mean is that you have more fish in the bag/box than before which only becomes a problem when you have to catch them :lol:

Wills
 
Here's an update clip after installing the Magnum 8 powerhead yesterday afternoon, which the fish are loving (although I turned it off overnight so they get gradually used to true river currents again)!
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http://www.youtube.c...h?v=WhMRkHYFSK8

The elusive Synodontis brichardi has been down there a week now, but never ventures out when I'm around, even if I pop down around 2100. However, having moved two bits of bogwood to try and stop the moving underwater sand dune (thanks to new powerhead), I got to see him/her this morning and it looks well (I had been adding algae wafers in evening for it). I still really like the idea of getting it a companion or two, perhaps getting Sam (the manager) to identify a definite female and possibly a male...
"It can be sexed by examining the genital papillae. This is not for the amateur however. The fish should be held ventral side up in the palm of your hand. The dorsal fin should be taken between your middle and ring fingers in order to avoid being pierced by the sharp dorsal fin rays. The genital area you are looking for is concealed beneath the pelvic fins. This can be exposed by pulling (gently) on the caudal fin. A male fish will exhibit an extended papillae which should be pointed and ridged. The spermatoduct can be seen on the caudal side. Females also have a clearly visible papillae but this is more rounded and the oviduct is on the opposite side to the male's spermatoduct."

The Yellowtail Cpngo Tetras had to move down yesterday, despite wanting to keep them with the Steaocranus parents and fry as a "dither fish." The parents have become rediculously fiesty to anyone but the Hypoptopoma ("giant otos") and the African Butterfly Fish on the surface. One of the Yellowtails had a nasty looking wound on its gill area for a week before very sadly dying during acclimitisation to the 540l, when I discovered just how bad the wound was (it was a very deep wound with an ulcer, which explains why he had become unsocial for last two days of his life, I feel very guilty for not realising how bad it was and not ending its pain earlier). A very sad second death inflicted by the Lionhead parents (who killed a Pearl Danio 4-month old fry outright ten days ago within minutes of their introduction and very nearly killed an adult Pearl, but thankfully she is healing).
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I have an FX5 filter waiting to be installed down there now alongside the 2078 for at least a month (to seed bacteria); a Rena Smartheater 300W to replace the Juwel 50W heater currently running alongside the Juwel 250W; a Blagdon 5-way powerswitch to replace the 3-way one.

My next mission is to supplement the natural lighting with a low wattage T8 kit, wondering about those Hagen starter units or there's a Betta kit on Ebay for £40 new? Then I can contemplate some more hardy riverine plants to replace those artificial giants (which do help at mo).
 
Nice set up you got there.

Are the green pipes for a water change or from a filter/pump?
 
Thanks for the compliment, The green pipes are the inlet and outlet from the Eheim 2078 external filter (which is going to get even messier when I install the FX5)!
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The tank and cabinet were randomly moved in front of the garage window, in the middle of a family barbeque (with inpromptu family helpers), literally "gliding" the unit across the floor. While this did allow me to setup the tank, it meant that I have no acess to the cabinet cupboards and so everything has to enter the tank from what is the traditional front of the tank, rather than being tidier through the back corners!
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