Marine Upgrade

[rabbut]

It's just a Korialia imitation. Try get a guard on the other pump ASAP, as it can catch and chew up any mobile livestock like it is now, from fish to crabs, to snails and shrimp. The suck on the inlet side is massive and more than capable of pulling in specimens

I see, the other pump is on the weir It just looks like it's dangling in the shot

All the best
Rabbut

 

[OscarWilde]

Are those wavemakers any good, they look like a koralia look alike?

I've heard good things and shopped around a bit to find that seller. The Feedback seems positive so I thought i'd take a chance. Will let you know how it performs.

It's just a Korialia imitation. Try get a guard on the other pump ASAP, as it can catch and chew up any mobile livestock like it is now, from fish to crabs, to snails and shrimp. The suck on the inlet side is massive and more than capable of pulling in specimens

Will do. Off to the LFS on saturday anyway to pickup a new bucket of salt and have a look at some potential livestock

What fish do you think might be suitable? I want going to buy some soft corals over the next few months but am wary of the hermits

 

[rabbut]

Hermits are of little risk to corals Some have to be watched with snails and other hermits, but that's the pure Blue legs, which it does not look like you have to me

What fish do you have your eye on ATM? Clowns are fairly flexible for mixing with others, considering how placid they (usualy) are

All the best
Rabbut

 

[OscarWilde]

Hermits are of little risk to corals Some have to be watched with snails and other hermits, but that's the pure Blue legs, which it does not look like you have to me

What fish do you have your eye on ATM? Clowns are fairly flexible for mixing with others, considering how placid they (usualy) are

All the best
Rabbut

I've got no idea! Really looking forward to 'shopping' for some new Livestock. The clowns were my first marines and I knew my nano was pushing it just for them so never really looked. I'd welcome any suggestions.

I do fancy an Anemone. Always liked them but I knwo I have to get my stats perfect first.

Thanks.

 

[Trod]

I bought one of those wave makers from the same seller, had in running in my nano for a couple of months, nice and quite and does the job well would recommend it

 

[rabbut]

Well, it's hard to recommend fish that you will like without first having an idea on what fish you like...

What lighting do you have? Anemones are usually fairly demanding of light

All the best
Rabbut

 

[OscarWilde]

I made a bit of an impulse buy when I went for my salt and purchased a bit of live rock with Zoanthids and an Anemone (£10 total)! Im happy with that the parameters are stable Amonia has returned to zero (I think it was only a blip after the move). I've had the original reef up for over a year so I think I've met the 'Wait one year before getting an Anemone" rule.

Current parameters:

Amonia: 0 (Triple test)
Nitrate: 0. (Double test)
pH: 8.4
Temp: 27.4
SG: 1.026 (will bring it down a little this week)

The Anemone was sold to me as a 'Sand Anemone' and I was told it was reef safe and comatible with my Livestock. I hope this is true, I would normally do tons of research first.

I could find much about 'Sand Anenome' as a common name. I've been reading lots though and think that it could be a "Pink Tip Haitian Anemone" (Condylactis sp). Good news is though that it 's taking food happily (a few tiny bits of shrimp so far) and moving around the tank happily so definitely not dead!

Rabbut - Lighting is: AquaMedic Aqualine T5's (2 X 15K Reef Whites and 2 X Reef Blues)

Here are some photos:

 

[rabbut]

BTA's are low light nems, and 4 T5 lamps are just enough for them. I'm not familiar with that nem you have, so cannot advise on if the lights are enough, but you will likely need to get an up-grade to halides to keep it

Get coarse sponge on all those powerheads now if you haven't done so already. Even that Koralia. None are nem safe, and will mince the nem if it happens to walk over the intake. Save the nem, protect those inlets

 

[OscarWilde]

BTA's are low light nems, and 4 T5 lamps are just enough for them. I'm not familiar with that nem you have, so cannot advise on if the lights are enough, but you will likely need to get an up-grade to halides to keep it

BTA's? do you mean Bubble Tip Anenome? Is that what you think this is? Not what the chap in the LFS said and he has some labeled Bubble Tip Anenome in a seperate tank

Regarding the light, If thats the case then its odd that it has moved down to the bottom third of the tank away from the light (and flow is about the same in those two places).

Get coarse sponge on all those powerheads now if you haven't done so already. Even that Koralia. None are nem safe, and will mince the nem if it happens to walk over the intake. Save the nem, protect those inlets

Already on the way for the MJ but what should I use for the Koralia. What do other people do?

 

[TigerIssey]

Rabbut meant that the best anemone for low light is the Bubble tip anemone. He is not however sure or familiar on you anemone. It could need a light upgrade.

It may not stay there, it could and will move alot when first introduced. However it may be okay in the light you have but may be unsuitable on size reasons for example. I do know that for a tank as samll as yours most recommend only the Bubble Tip anemone.

I must say in Reef Secrets, yours does not match their picture for sand anemone, that one does stay small but need high light intensity.

From the pictures in my book it looks more like the Leathery sea anemone or the caribbean giant anemone which both grow huge and are needing strong light intensity and have incredibly strong stings.

 

[OscarWilde]

It may not stay there, it could and will move alot when first introduced. However it may be okay in the light you have but may be unsuitable on size reasons for example. I do know that for a tank as samll as yours most recommend only the Bubble Tip anemone.

From the pictures in my book it looks more like the Leathery sea anemone or the caribbean giant anemone which both grow huge and are needing strong light intensity and have incredibly strong stings.

Thanks Tiger. Dam it! Im usually so careful with mey research. Just always wanted an anemone so got carried away. It seems to be doing well (looks a lot more healthy than it did before and still taking food) so i'll leave it in for the moment and review things in a couple of weeks.

Regarding the sting and your possible ID as Caribbean giant. The guy in the LFS picked it up with his hand and it was 'living' on top of a Colony of Zoanthids (completely healthy). That would make me think maybe not but maybe that means nothing at this size (about 3cm radius from middle of mouth).

Thanks very much for your help.

 

[TigerIssey]

I would wait for someone else, I may be wrong but the colours and tentacles on the caribbean do match very well. It is also a type that is suited to a tank with sand, algae and crustaceans naturally associated with the anemone. (Reef Secrets).

I would say the shop man knows how to pick them up also, as all anemones will sting, its the other sessile animals neighbouring the nem that will need to watch out. Zoas are pretty strong themselves though, one of mine got a fair sting from my hammer, its nearly healed in about a week. Size for that nem if it is, is about 30cm, 11.7".

 

[rabbut]

BTA's are low light nems, and 4 T5 lamps are just enough for them. I'm not familiar with that nem you have, so cannot advise on if the lights are enough, but you will likely need to get an up-grade to halides to keep it

BTA's? do you mean Bubble Tip Anenome? Is that what you think this is? Not what the chap in the LFS said and he has some labeled Bubble Tip Anenome in a seperate tank

I think Tiger has wrapped this one up. BTA's are argued the best for a low-light nem tank. That new you have looks very "plain" in the photo which does make me wonder if it hasn't had enough light for it's liking for a while. This isn't necessarily the case though...

Regarding the light, If thats the case then its odd that it has moved down to the bottom third of the tank away from the light (and flow is about the same in those two places).

Many high-light nems will sit between the rock-work and the sand, or in the sand itself. Positioning does not necessarily indicate that light levels are OK... The vast majority on nems need Halides in tanks over 18" deap, and lots of T5's in shallower tanks...

Get coarse sponge on all those powerheads now if you haven't done so already. Even that Koralia. None are nem safe, and will mince the nem if it happens to walk over the intake. Save the nem, protect those inlets

Already on the way for the MJ but what should I use for the Koralia. What do other people do?

If the nem walks onto the MJ's or Koralia, it will almost certainly be killed. You need them covered now really, improvise with old socks e.t.c is necessary. I haven't found any info on guarding Koralias, other than surrounding them with a 3" egg-crate perimeter cage, but even that is not enough in many cases. I have seen that Koralias have the prop less guarded than Tunze pumps, one of which killed one of my BTA's

 

[SkiFletch]

Definitely one of the Hatian nems as mentioned. These have pretty poor survivability in home aquaria actually . They need exceptional light, and some pretty frequent feedings to really do well. Say 2-3 times per week. Also as mentioned, they are VERY aggressive anemones and have long tentacles, a doubly difficult thing to deal with. Were it my tank, I'd return the nem...

 

[OscarWilde]

Hello all.

I returned the Anenome. The tanks is looking really good now. I added about 6kg of extra live rock and Im now thinking about more further stocking:

Current stocking:

2 X False Percula Clownfish
1 X Blood/Fire Shrimp
Several Hermits and Turbos.

Possible additions.

I like the look of all of these fish. I obviously dont intend to get all of them but can anyone see problems with the current inhabitants plus any of these?

Saddle Valentini Puffer - Canthigaster valentini
Bangai cardinal fish - Pterapogon kauderni
Yellow Damselfish - Amblyglyphidodon aureus
Blue Velvet Damselfish - Paraglyphidodon oxyodon
Dwarf Bicolor Angelfish - Centropyge bicolor
Dwarf Coral Beauty Angelfish - Centropyge bispinosus
Dwarf Flame Angelfish - Centropyge loriculus
Tomato Clownfish - Amphiprion frenatus
Engineer Goby - Pholidichthys leucotaenia

Bubble Tip Anenome
More soft corals.