Marine Tank Query...

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hi, i have been keeping tropical fish for about 3 years now.
and i have fell in love with marines ever since i saw them in a not so LFS so i am wanting to get a marine setup in the future (plus i hate my plant scape :lol:)

I am wondering what are the basic things needed for a marine setup?

it would be a 125l tank.
also possible stocking if i do begin to set it up?
 
hi, i have been keeping tropical fish for about 3 years now.
and i have fell in love with marines ever since i saw them in a not so LFS so i am wanting to get a marine setup in the future (plus i hate my plant scape :lol:)

I am wondering what are the basic things needed for a marine setup?

it would be a 125l tank.
also possible stocking if i do begin to set it up?

Hi and welcome to the salty side!

As I'm sure your aware, this question has come up more than once so to save my fingers may I suggest you look down the topic list in this section as you will find the answers to your questions. I recall answering a question only a few days ago so it shouldn't be too gar down the list.
Also check out the journals as they are a god send in terms if equipment needed, stocking, maintenance and setups.

Once again welcome and enjoy!
 
:hi: to the salty side of the forum :good:

Interestingly we have had a run on people wanting to set-up this size tank, its a good size to start imo. Gets you used to the basics first.

As Woody suggested, have a look at some of the recent posts but also start thinking, what do I want to keep in my tank, that way we can help you more.

A basic set-up

125 litres tank
deltec 300 skimmer (secondhand)
Live rock
heater
ro water with salt
test kits
refractometer to test sg
good set of lights, T5, LEDs or halide - will depend what you want ot keep ans how much you want to spend!
Powerheads for flow

Seffie x
 
hi, i have been keeping tropical fish for about 3 years now.
and i have fell in love with marines ever since i saw them in a not so LFS so i am wanting to get a marine setup in the future (plus i hate my plant scape :lol:)

I am wondering what are the basic things needed for a marine setup?

it would be a 125l tank.
also possible stocking if i do begin to set it up?

Hi and welcome to the salty side!

As I'm sure your aware, this question has come up more than once so to save my fingers may I suggest you look down the topic list in this section as you will find the answers to your questions. I recall answering a question only a few days ago so it shouldn't be too gar down the list.
Also check out the journals as they are a god send in terms if equipment needed, stocking, maintenance and setups.

Once again welcome and enjoy!

thanks, i dont think it will even get started untill at least dec/jan
i will look down for the list.
i have read many journals over time when im bored, most f them in fact :lol:

:hi: to the salty side of the forum :good:

Interestingly we have had a run on people wanting to set-up this size tank, its a good size to start imo. Gets you used to the basics first.

As Woody suggested, have a look at some of the recent posts but also start thinking, what do I want to keep in my tank, that way we can help you more.

A basic set-up

125 litres tank
deltec 300 skimmer (secondhand)
Live rock
heater
ro water with salt
test kits
refractometer to test sg
good set of lights, T5, LEDs or halide - will depend what you want ot keep ans how much you want to spend!
Powerheads for flow

Seffie x

well what i would like to keep is 2 clownfish and 1 firefish after that im not sure?

i will look into the equipment soon

p.s. what is ro water
 
well what i would like to keep is 2 clownfish and 1 firefish after that im not sure?

p.s. what is ro water

Reverse osmosis water, means it has passed through a filter to remove chloramine, heavy metals, phosphates etc a must for a reef tank and someone new to the hobby. You can buy your own ro unit for under the sink or buy your water from a lfs

When you are considering your clowns, do a bit of research, there are many different types out there and your lfs will usually order them in for you if they are a bit more unusal.

so, you have your basic plan:


a tank of 125 litres
your stock - 2 x clowns and a firefish, I suggest you have a look at gobies and blennys for the bottom of the tank :good:

Seffie x

Seffie x
 
well what i would like to keep is 2 clownfish and 1 firefish after that im not sure?

p.s. what is ro water

Reverse osmosis water, means it has passed through a filter to remove chloramine, heavy metals, phosphates etc a must for a reef tank and someone new to the hobby. You can buy your own ro unit for under the sink or buy your water from a lfs

When you are considering your clowns, do a bit of research, there are many different types out there and your lfs will usually order them in for you if they are a bit more unusal.

so, you have your basic plan:


a tank of 125 litres
your stock - 2 x clowns and a firefish, I suggest you have a look at gobies and blennys for the bottom of the tank :good:

Seffie x

Seffie x

what type of gobies or blennys would be best for begginers.
also decided i would like to have a starfish also if it will go with the others?

ive been looking on the good old ebay :lol: and the skimmer you suggested is quite cheap second hand (shame in not able to start it now)
 
well what i would like to keep is 2 clownfish and 1 firefish after that im not sure?

p.s. what is ro water

Reverse osmosis water, means it has passed through a filter to remove chloramine, heavy metals, phosphates etc a must for a reef tank and someone new to the hobby. You can buy your own ro unit for under the sink or buy your water from a lfs

When you are considering your clowns, do a bit of research, there are many different types out there and your lfs will usually order them in for you if they are a bit more unusal.

so, you have your basic plan:


a tank of 125 litres
your stock - 2 x clowns and a firefish, I suggest you have a look at gobies and blennys for the bottom of the tank :good:

Seffie x

Seffie x

what type of gobies or blennys would be best for begginers.
also decided i would like to have a starfish also if it will go with the others?

ive been looking on the good old ebay :lol: and the skimmer you suggested is quite cheap second hand (shame in not able to start it now)


Hi, Star fish make a good addition to any tank as they are, imo, interesting to watch. I have a sand sifting starfish [which my little boy has named 'patrick'] and I love watching him, especially when he climbs up the glass and then falls on his back and flips himself over again.

Unfortunatley tho, Star fish are for established tanks only, not sure about others but sand sifters are scavengers and rely on uneaten food etc that sits under the substrate for their diet.

Personally, I'd give it a year or so for the tank to establish itself before you think of buying one. Or you could just over feed slightly to accomodate it, tho I would'nt recommend it as it will push your Nitrate levels up thus requiring more water changes.

Have you decided on one what type of setup you'd like [e.g fish only / FOWLR / Reef] as this would help in deciding on what equipment you would need!

Regarding flow, you need to be aiming for 20 x T/O [turnover]

My tank is 128 L and thanks to 1 x 900lph P/H , 1 x 3000 lph P/H and a 720lph pump I'm getting over 36 x T/O.

You can never have too much flow when live rock is concerned but you need to be careful when coral are involved as some like high flow, some mediate and some low.

When picking your live rock, try and go for cured live rock as this will reduce your cycling time.
You'll need around 12 - 15KG [30 - 35 lbs] for your size tank.

To save money, you could always cure the rock yourself. I'm currently in the process of curing 10kg of live rock in a seperate container.
All thats required is ro water [salted], heater, powerhead/pump/ test kit for testing ammonia/nitrite and the rock.
LFS sell uncured lr for around £2.50 kilo. Cured lr can be anything from £8 - £10.
Maybe in a years time i would have some cured lr to sell, if it takes off for me [£6 per kilo] lol
 
ok, i will read up about the starfish.

i haven't decided on setup as im not sure how to do them really :blush:

on ebay i saw 20kg LR going for £39 including delivery, so ill probs get that if its still there.
 
ok, i will read up about the starfish.

i haven't decided on setup as im not sure how to do them really :blush:

on ebay i saw 20kg LR going for £39 including delivery, so ill probs get that if its still there.

That seems to cheap tbh. Is it genuine lr and is it cured?........ask the seller. better yet, post a link so we can have a look. We would'nt want you, wasting your money! [your gonna need it for the setup !lol]
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200547782842&category=20757&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200547782842&category=20757&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

Thats uncured rock and not very porous, unlike lr [would take weeks to months to cure] Funny enough, some of the rock i'm currently curing is this type of rock so I would let you know how it goes if you like.

Regarding starfish. Check out my sand sifter in my journel [''Established Marine tank........new owner''].
 
As Woody said, you dont want that stuff, its just heavy rock!

Curing rock is a simple process, you take Live rock that has been out of the sea quite a while, stick it in a tank or container with heat and salty water and grab yourself a large clothes peg - as everything that was once live and has died off gives off its ammonia, nitrate etc the pong is unbelievable, you can run your skimmer and carbon to ward off smells :sick: However you sometimes end up with some interesting hitchhikers that make it through the massive cycle. If you are interested my sister did this when setting up her five footer, was quite interesting, its in her journel.

Woody is currently 'seeding' rock in a container. He has started off with dead rock which is suitable and porous and has put some live rock in to seed it, it will be interesting watching his progress :good: He is also trying to kick start a biological process by adding food to decay.

By far the easiest way is to buy from a local reefer - keep your eyes peeled and buy bargains when you find them, its part of the fun

Seffie x
 
As Woody said, you dont want that stuff, its just heavy rock!

Curing rock is a simple process, you take Live rock that has been out of the sea quite a while, stick it in a tank or container with heat and salty water and grab yourself a large clothes peg - as everything that was once live and has died off gives off its ammonia, nitrate etc the pong is unbelievable, you can run your skimmer and carbon to ward off smells :sick: However you sometimes end up with some interesting hitchhikers that make it through the massive cycle. If you are interested my sister did this when setting up her five footer, was quite interesting, its in her journel.

Woody is currently 'seeding' rock in a container. He has started off with dead rock which is suitable and porous and has put some live rock in to seed it, it will be interesting watching his progress :good: He is also trying to kick start a biological process by adding food to decay.

By far the easiest way is to buy from a local reefer - keep your eyes peeled and buy bargains when you find them, its part of the fun

Seffie x

ive got about 11 moths to look at some good bargins :lol:
but may get skimmer soon as ive seem a good bargin on auction :hey:
 
ive got about 11 moths to look at some good bargins :lol:
but may get skimmer soon as ive seem a good bargin on auction :hey:

I really enjoyed the research and looking for bargains part of setting up a tank and giving yourself a year, although probably seems a long time to you is a really sensible idea and will enable you to set-up cheaper as well :good:

Seffie x
 
ive only got £35 atm (being that age)
but i am thinking of getting the skimmer as it is cheap atm.

I think i may go with corals aswell, but are any special things needed?
Also where would i get hold of some ro water?

gosh i didn't think live rock would be to expenisve
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but i think that is probally most expensive
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my tank atm does have algae atm should get a apple snail soon. i was growing it to get otos but now really want marine so im not getting them any more. if i do scrape it off it wont harm anything saltwater?
and could i still use the heater from it?

also wat sort of sand would i be needing?

sorry for all the questions
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