Juwel Vision 450 Weight Filled? Setting New Tank Up

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there are too many factors to consider to determine if a floor can hold your tank....

the age of the home, how well it was built, the size of the floor joists etc etc....

there is no "blanket rule" here.....every house is different....

even the placement of the tank matters.....your floor is alot stronger close to the load bearing, and outside walls.....

a tank should also always be placed so it is perpendicular to the floor joists, and not parallel with them.....if your tank is positioned parallel with the floor joists, that basically means the ENTIRE TANKS weight is being supported by one single floor beam!!

bottom line is....nobody here can tell you if your floor is strong enough.....if you want to know for sure then you need to have an engineer come out to inspect it,
 
Lockman, you need to drag her round loads of MAs showing her really awesome fish that see falls in love with!! That are utterly incompatable with your stocking for the oak tank
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ergo she needs her own tank
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That you will of course help her with and maintain for her (then of course before she realises it... you take over it too lol).

Markandjanice, its certainly going to be a weighty tank! 450L = 450kgs + about 25-30kgs substrate.... + about 50kgs of ocean rock + tank weight... 85kgs according to Juwel
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http://www.juwel-aqu...000000000010320

So about 615kgs.

just that tank weighs more than me.... jealous.
 
I agree with MBOU's prediction of weight.
I installed one last year.
tank weighed in at almost 95kg (according to shipping :/ )
Cabinet is easily moved by one person, like 20-40kg? (maybe exaggerated...)

I filled it with 80kg of moonrock and 40-50kg of rhinesand.
Top of with indeed around 400l of water, you're looking at a total weight of between 600 and 700kg :)
 
I would seriously worry about that Vision 450 upstairs, without getting a structural engineer's survey! ~600Kg filled is a massive weight over 5-foot and if that is going on a typical tank cabinet, it will be concentrated on 4/6 tiny feet.
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I'm in the middle of a massive furniture move around to accomodate a 72x18x18 (~380l) tank in my first floor flat, which means my Rio240 has to go into another room, but at least this tank will be on the floor over some think polystyrene to spread the weight out evenly (100Kg per joist, which is actually lower than the figure for my Rio240 plus its cabinet). There will be nothing else of noteable weight on those five joists supporting the 6-footer, leaving some leaway as regard to the 150Kg per joist maximum load. I'm still thinking about only filling it to ~13" to reduce the total wight by ~100Kg and I doubt it will get a substrate either.
 

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